i strongly dislike ableton. it's a good tool for studio style mixing, a great advance and added flexibility etc, but i still see it as studio style mixing. it makes mixing a very cerebral process; it's way geeky. and it's too safe. to me it is at odds with the pleasure of playing and listening to music, the alive-ness of music, and of mixing...simplicity... sure it sounds alive in the end when you can screw around with 500 loops it took you a week to cut up, but...i dunno. it's halfway between traditional mixing and production, but not as open-ended and versatile and hands-on as either...it just seems half-canned to me, music from concentrate just add ableton and stir. the complexities arent worth the result, or vice-versa. not that i dont enjoy some ableton mixes, but no more than i do traditional mixes -- usually not as much. people tend to go overboard with the layering of loops and frantic pace, which is fun at first, and good for booty music where you dont care to hear 3 minutes of the same track, but it takes too much energy and attention to listen to...i just wanna relax and hear some music not a vigorous exercise in sound editing...and when mixing, i wanna wander around crates throwing on whatever grabs me...the inclination to digitize and computerize (and perfect and control) everything can end up draining some of the joy out imo...its a cold cold world..i know there are loads of people older than myself on the list, but seeing people get excited about this stuff makes me feel like a dinosaur...

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