there's also a "gapless" plugin for winamp which makes mp3s play seamlessly. i assume it just buffers the first few seconds of the next song when it senses the current one is about to end.

I dont use Ableton, but i have experienced this "MP3 silence gap" problem,
since i work on Macromedia Flash.
You can dynamically import external MP3 into your Flash movie. But forget
it, if you wanna make a loop with it...
While, its possible to import a WAV when you work on your source. And then
Flash use its own internal MP3 encoder to export your movie as a SWF file.
And i dunno which codec is used, but the loop is now in MP3 and is exactly
the same length! No gaps! It loops perfectly.
No idea how they did it...But for me it only means one thing..ITS POSSIBLE!!
Id like it to be the defacto standard!!
(And, yes its really encoded in MP3).

- KiDD*e*


----- Original Message -----
From: "/0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Ableton Live mixes


> 1-2 percent adds up.
>
> this is the reason ableton hasnt done it, check their forums
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronny Pries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'313'" <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 10:59 AM
> Subject: RE: (313) Ableton Live mixes
>
>
> > we're talking about maybe 1-2% per mp3 stream. that is not the argument.
> > besides, my notebook hd is already the max. size limit.
> >
> > on the other hand it's simply impossible to play with mp3 loops because
> > mp3 isn't gapless (adds a few ms silence before and after the data
> > area). i would just like to use ableton as cut-tool which i want to use
> > for extracting loops from tracks. that's the only point where i would
> > like to open mp3s. i bet that ableton will surely come up with a
> > solution for the cut thing, most sound editors really lack on features
> > when it comes about cutting loops from areas without drums (eh, where's
> > the exact start point?).
> >
> > cheerio,
> > ronny
> >
> > > you dont want the overhead of decoding multiple mp3 streams
> > > in realtime (by default, live reads the wav in realtime
> > > each time it plays, a lot like a record player... )applying
> > > pitch or time shifting, and then output as an uncompressed
> > > stream.  you can upgrade hard drives with much more ease than
> > > a CPU, and ableton can read from CD or dvd, which helps (cd
> > > or dvd of .wav)
> > >
> > > -Joe
> >
>
>



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