Really? I stand corrected.
Clearly, I'm not as "down with the kids" as I thought I was!

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From: Nicole Slavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 6:05 PM
To: Robert Taylor; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) Hip Hop and Techno (was 8-Mile)



> I think rave is now  seen primarily as an embarrassing
>word that parents and authority figures use to decribe something that the
>kids get up to.

Nope, the kids i teach use it all the time to describe the parties they go
to, which play music along the lines of pop/garage/rnb.


>Now that large scale raves are happening in the US, it seems that the word
>has had something of a renaissance, but only in the US.

when i was in the US seemed to be pretty much used to describe anything with
two or more people with a glowstick in tow.
But then again, some US 313ers called me a raver for wearing coloured
hairclips and bracelets! :)



>-----Original Message-----
>From: glyph1001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:45 PM
>Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (313) Hip Hop and Techno (was 8-Mile)
>
>
>I will have to agree with robin here and I'm from the US.  I read this
>article in an ooooold DJ Magazine that talked about "The Summer of Love"
>and there was a part where someone would say (I'm paraphrasing here)
>"you gonna rave? or have you raved yet?" which meant taking a hit of e
>and going to a party and "rave" like mad.  Indeed the Acid House and
>Rave are one of the same. \ I suggest doing some research at the mag's
>website.
>
>
>
>robin pinning wrote:
>
>>>>>The rave scene started over there, as their answer to our Hip-Hop
scene.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>don't think that is true....the rave scene developed out of the northern
>>>>soul scene (from what i've read)...original rave music was acid house
>(the
>>>>other key ingredient to raves was the rapid take up of ecstacy at the
>same
>>>>time)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I don't agree that the Acid House Scene was the Rave Scene.  I think it
>was definetly
>>>"proto-rave", but I don't feel RAVE happened until after the Acid House
>Raids in 1989, and
>>>1/2 the promoters went underground into the warehouses.  That is when the
>culture grew, and
>>>it wasn't just a random occurence of club-rebellion.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>hmmm we'll agree to disagree... :)
>>
>>rave was defo happening around 88's summer of love (see the national
>>newspaper headlines!!), this was quite a bit before hardcore happened
>>which was 89/90 ->
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> Hence all the
>>>>>dancehall and "street" influences in the original Rave Music: Hardcore.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>that came later...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>nah, Hardcore started in 1987, with Lennie de Ice's "We Are I.E.", and
the
>early SUAD
>>>releases.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>SUAD started in 1989 (i have a few of their releases, froma round the
>>time) and i'm failry sure "we are ie" came out in 89 too (what a tune btw)
>>
>>
>>cheers
>>
>>robin...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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