-----Original Message----- From: Nicole Slavin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: 13 November 2002 18:04 Subject: Re: (313) Hip Hop and Techno (was 8-Mile)
> >> I think rave is now seen primarily as an embarrassing >>word that parents and authority figures use to decribe something that the >>kids get up to. > >Nope, the kids i teach use it all the time to describe the parties they go >to, which play music along the lines of pop/garage/rnb. > > >>Now that large scale raves are happening in the US, it seems that the word >>has had something of a renaissance, but only in the US. > >when i was in the US seemed to be pretty much used to describe anything with >two or more people with a glowstick in tow. >But then again, some US 313ers called me a raver for wearing coloured >hairclips and bracelets! :) > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: glyph1001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:45 PM >>Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Re: (313) Hip Hop and Techno (was 8-Mile) >> >> >>I will have to agree with robin here and I'm from the US. I read this >>article in an ooooold DJ Magazine that talked about "The Summer of Love" >>and there was a part where someone would say (I'm paraphrasing here) >>"you gonna rave? or have you raved yet?" which meant taking a hit of e >>and going to a party and "rave" like mad. Indeed the Acid House and >>Rave are one of the same. \ I suggest doing some research at the mag's >>website. >> >> >> >>robin pinning wrote: >> >>>>>>The rave scene started over there, as their answer to our Hip-Hop >scene. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>don't think that is true....the rave scene developed out of the northern >>>>>soul scene (from what i've read)...original rave music was acid house >>(the >>>>>other key ingredient to raves was the rapid take up of ecstacy at the >>same >>>>>time) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I don't agree that the Acid House Scene was the Rave Scene. I think it >>was definetly >>>>"proto-rave", but I don't feel RAVE happened until after the Acid House >>Raids in 1989, and >>>>1/2 the promoters went underground into the warehouses. That is when the >>culture grew, and >>>>it wasn't just a random occurence of club-rebellion. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>hmmm we'll agree to disagree... :) >>> >>>rave was defo happening around 88's summer of love (see the national >>>newspaper headlines!!), this was quite a bit before hardcore happened >>>which was 89/90 -> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>> Hence all the >>>>>>dancehall and "street" influences in the original Rave Music: Hardcore. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>that came later... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>nah, Hardcore started in 1987, with Lennie de Ice's "We Are I.E.", and >the >>early SUAD >>>>releases. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>SUAD started in 1989 (i have a few of their releases, froma round the >>>time) and i'm failry sure "we are ie" came out in 89 too (what a tune btw) >>> >>> >>>cheers >>> >>>robin... >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily >>represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically >>stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended >>solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. >>If you have received this email in error, please notify >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >
