I delete each mail individually too and it's no bother - anyway, who's
to say when the sunject has changed enough to retitle? What if it
changes back to the subject? Best to not mess with it. 


Rob Taylor
VT Librarian
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-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 September 2008 13:04
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: Odeluga, Ken; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad
Mike interview)

The way gmail formats threads, though, one has to go through and delete
each message individually.  If people would follow *a simple and
long-standing rule of netiquette* things would work more smoothly for
everyone.

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Robert Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Delete it then
>
>
> Rob Taylor
> VT Librarian
> x8599
> Hatch Desk x1088
>  VT Library Users' Guide
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 09 September 2008 12:40
> To: Odeluga, Ken
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) 
> Mad Mike interview)
>
> I disagree.  I don't have any interest in reading about podcast laws 
> and regulations.  The original post was about a specific detroit 
> related thing that I wanted to keep track of for later, but now i have

> to read a new email that has nothing to do with the op every time 
> somebody replies.  A subject change would easily fix this, and it's 
> just good netiquette.
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Odeluga, Ken 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> No big deal really - it's still related to the event, which was in 
>> itself pretty unusual, as the post below points out.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 12:32 PM
>> To: 313@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: (313) new zealand's podcast laws (was Re: Fw: Re: (313) Mad 
>> Mike interview)
>>
>>
>> people on this list need to learn how to change the subject lines 
>> accordingly when the original intent of the post is lost.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:55 AM, pauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> BBC do exactly the same thing for podcasts of previously recorded 
>>> radio shows. A podcast is a download, not listened to live, it's not

>>> a
>>
>>> performance licence that's required by Radio NZ. UR needs to be able

>>> to collect for the use of their material from the listener, from the

>>> downloader. And as RNZ aren't in the business of selling music, and 
>>> UR
>>
>>> aren't giving it away, all they can do is make available for 
>>> downlaod
>
>>> the material that they own the copyright to, which is the chat, not 
>>> the music. I think it's it's amazing he was interviewed at all by 
>>> the
>
>>> state broadcaster...I can't see BBC1 giving him 30 minutes during 
>>> any
>
>>> given day.
>>>
>>>  essentially it's the listener who needs to > This proves once again

>>> how NZ takes America's most trumped-up
>>>> regulations and makes them worse.
>>>>
>>>> I know there are geeks in the house who will enjoy Peter Gutmann's 
>>>> classic story about NZ regulation in the 1990s of "digital 
>>>> munitions," otherwise known as cryptographic keys, or, "my life as 
>>>> a
>
>>>> Kiwi arms courier."
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/courier.html
>>>> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/policy/wass99.html
>>>>
>>>> fh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------ mail forwarded, original message follows ------
>>>>
>>>> To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <Andy Mitchell>
>>>> Subject: Re: (313) Mad Mike interview
>>>> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 10:20:16 +1200 (NZST)
>>>>
>>>>>> They won't let you waiver - music is music to mcps/prs etc and 
>>>>>> they
>>
>>>>>> do close people down for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a New Zealand site remember, so it's controlled by local 
>>>>> organisation RIANZ not any American organisation. I'm guessing 
>>>>> their
>>
>>>>> fees are equally prohibitive though, because *no-one* offers 
>>>>> podcasts or even streaming archived shows here unless they consist

>>>>> purely of talk.
>>>>
>>>> So I did some snooping and the local situation is this (turned out 
>>>> it
>>
>>>> was an organisation called Phonographic Performances New Zealand 
>>>> who
>
>>>> control broadcast licenses here):
>>>>
>>>>> PPNZ does not have an existing assignment to blanket licence 
>>>>> podcasts at the present time. Any broadcaster seeking to make 
>>>>> available music on demand is required to seek the permission of 
>>>>> the
>
>>>>> individual copyright owners concerned.
>>>>
>>>> So it's more or less impossible to archive music radio online from 
>>>> here!Madness...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> peace,
>>
>> frank
>>
>> dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
>>
>
>
>
> --
> peace,
>
> frank
>
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