On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 10:20, Martin Sevior wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 09:26, Martin Sevior wrote:
> > > Because he did them right away and uploaded them to sourceforge thus
> > > saving me lots of time.

> > You know perfectly well I won't do that, and I don't think a little
> > laziness compensates for all the work done.

> If you call being up for 36 hours straight lazy your crazy. I've been
> hacking constantly on abiword for 2 whole years. I have done tons of
> work for the project. If someone saves me some time by showing me some
> consideration then I certainly take them up on it. 

Do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT misinterpret what I said. I'm not talking about
code. That doesn't save you more time than including a link for an
alternative download site.

Also, it does not have to be you uploading to sourceforge.

> To transfer all the rpms from site to another I have to do about 100
> megabytes of transfers. That is real time and bandwidth wasted.

So, why not even mention the url? Does it transfer many megabytes to
include a link? Oh iu forgot, you think it is confusing... so let's read
your argument for confusion...

> > > Why confuse people with two download sites?
> > What, providing an alternate site for download is confusing? You really
> > lost me on that.
> We have a website setup for directing people to the builds of abiword that
> best suit their needs. This includes windows and mac users. I would like
> as many people as possible to visit our website so that we have a chace to
> get a bit more publicity and give them a chance to learn more us. All
> simple, sensible marketing.

But you said that it would be confusing! This is not an argument for the
link confusing users!
So if it's not a case of causing confusion to users, then let's not hold
on to a false "holy grail".

The web site can (at no huge cost) point to a link to an alternative
download. It may even be faster for some users.
I do not say that download.phtml is a refresh url for savannah's link,
ok? If I go there it automagically figures out I'm on a redhat machine
and show's me links to the rpms at sourceforge.

So what you're doing is only:
  * disrespect completely my work
    You didn't even talk to me, not even when I asked you about
    including a link in the announcement, you just said that I could
    post it if I so wished. And so I did. But I could do that anyway.
  * not providing an alternative place for download
    Some users may feel that another website may have a faster download
    Some users may not feel inclined towards supporting sourceforge, as
    I am not.

Regards, rms

-- 
+ No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown
+ Whatever you do will be insignificant,
| but it is very important that you do it -- Ghandi
+ So let's do it...?

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