I support Avinash's and Dinesh's views.  Strict supervision and if
necessary, c c t v recording will reduce the malpractice to a great
extense.

Renuka.

On 12/15/17, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <li...@srinivasu.org> wrote:
> Kanchan,
> I think what Dinesh is referring is CCTV recording. Now-a-days use of CCTV
> is quite common everywhere and even may already exist in exam centres. I
> don't think he is talking about video shoot or something like that.
>
> Best,
> Vasu
>
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>
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> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Kanchan Pamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dinesh I am not questioning you for the sake of arguing but for
>> strengthening my stand tomorrow.Is video recording feasible for exams in
>> schools colleges and competitive exams in various classrooms.
>>   -----Original Message-----
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Dinesh Kaushal
>> Sent: 14 December 2017 18:15
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent
>>
>> I guess we may not have to worry about all these conditions if video
>> recording of the session could be made mandatory. Video recording should
>> be
>> submitted so that anytime any authority could verify if any cheating
>> happened.
>> for any
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Kanchan Pamnani
>> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:59 PM
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.' <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent
>>
>>
>> See the opinion of some stake holders. I had started answering these but
>> got
>> foxed with NIVH -our apex body.
>> Now what to do friends when we have to face ourselves.
>>
>> 1.      SSC
>> Candidate allowed to bring their own scribe can misuse this facility
>> which
>> could adversely impact the transparency and integrity of the examination.
>> It
>> also has the potential to disrupt the level playing field for other
>> candidates in this category who accept the scribe provided by the
>> Commission. i. Moreover the propensity for allegations/complaints of
>> unfair
>> practises could also be high.
>> Kp Supervision which is the responsibility of the Examining Authority
>>
>> 2.      CBSE
>> Scribe should not have obtained qualification in same subject in which
>> the
>> candidate is appearing for the examination and should be one class lower
>> than the candidate
>> 3.      National Trust
>> Scribe/reader/lab Assistant should be qualified according to the need of
>> the
>> examination and should be conversant with the language of the
>> examination.
>> He should not be overqualified as he may unduly assist the PwD/candidate.
>> KP Ok
>> 4.       IPH
>> Whenever possible the PwD should have the same scribe for written
>> assessments as they had for other classroom tests. In all cases, the
>> scribe
>> must have an understating of how to record responses using procedures
>> described and familiar with the test including knowledge of vocabulary
>> used
>> in the test.
>> Scribe should not be in blood relation with the Pwds KP cannot have the
>> same
>> scribe Scribe should not be in blood relation to the candidate Kp OK NIVH
>> NIHH left open to the examining bodies In case of graduate level
>> examination
>> the scribe can be a graduate from a different stream In case of Master
>> Level
>> Examination the scribe cab be from a different
>> discipline than that of the candidate. A   graduate level  scribe from
>> the
>> same discipline can be allowed for aMaster level examination in such a
>> case
>> the percentage of marks of graduate level scribe should be more than 60%
>> For
>> entrance and school tests involving basic qualification of candidate upto
>> 12th std the qualification of the scribe should be one step lower than
>> that
>> of the candidate. For example 12th class candidate may be allowed an 11th
>> class with not more than 70% marks. In case the candidate chooses a
>> scribe
>> 10th class pass then there should be no restriction on percentage of
>> marks.
>>
>> CCPD
>> The Para IV provides option to the candidate for opting their own scribe
>> or
>> request the examination body for the same. Both the option are relevant.
>> However keeping in view the gravity of the examination candidate's own
>> scribe should not be his/her close relative such as parents siblings etc
>> The
>> Qualification of the scribe mustbe lower than the candidate however
>> scribe
>> frim the same subject area may be allowed provided having lower
>> qualification Guidelines should clearly mention that parents and close
>> relatives will not be allowed as scribe.
>>
>> Close relative OK
>>
>> V 1. SSC
>> Scribe provided by the commission has adequate educational level The
>> overall
>> conduct of examination is done under proper invigilation/supervision to
>> check malpractices
>>
>> 2. CBSC
>> Scribe should not have obtained his/her qualification in same subject in
>> which the candidate is appearing for the examination and he /she should
>> be
>> one class lower than the candidate
>>
>> 3. National Trust
>> Scribe/reader/lab assistant should be qualified according to the need of
>> the
>> examination and should be conversant with the language of the examination
>> he
>> Should not be overqualified as he may unduly assist the Pwd/candidate
>>
>> 4.IPH
>> Scribe should ne from an academic discipline different from that post of
>> written exam] Invigilator should be trained and ensure that scribe
>> remains
>> impartial and should not be any way influence the student performance on
>> the
>> test
>>
>> 5.      CCPD
>> The education qualification must be decided as lower than that of
>> candidate
>> The criteria for scribe should be separate for school/college or other
>> academic examination and competitive examination
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of SC Vashishth
>> Sent: 14 December 2017 17:42
>> To: AI List; avinash shahi
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines urgent
>>
>> Dear Kanchan,
>>
>> I strongly disagree on putting any restrictions on scribes. It would be
>> like
>> raising the kerbs on the kerb ramps because some biker users misuse the
>> pedestrian sidewalks. This is an issue of enforcement.
>>
>> The mechanism of invigilation need to be made foolproof. Also there has
>> to
>> be gradual shift to technology where people are more independent.
>>
>> So far courts have supported our cause, so has the ministry. But if our
>> own
>> committee give a differing opinion based on this cases it might be
>> counterproductive for all the efforts of the sector to get that guideline
>> in
>> place. See how it can be salvaged!
>>
>> Regards
>> Subhash Chandra Vashishth
>>
>> On 14-Dec-2017 3:59 PM, "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Referring to OM of 26th Feb 2013
>> >
>> > What limitations can we allow on scribes
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > This is critical because tomorrow there is a meeting.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Someone has gone to the Bombay High Court and asked that private
>> > scribes be banned. Luckily the court has not agreed with this decision.
>> >
>> > However we will have to agree to some restrictions.
>> >
>> > The malpractises and complaints about malpractises is going out of
>> > hand.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Please help!
>> >
>> > At present there is no limitation and there is wide spread  misuse by
>> > our community
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > K
>> >
>> >
>> >
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