I totally agree with Avinash. In an ideal isituation, strict vigilance is
the solution rather than restrictions and cheating even happens by people
not using scribes. But then we are in asituation where the ideal situation
is in danger.

I think instead of restrictions, disclosure could be an alternative. So a
scribe has to disclose if she/he has taken the exam previously and if so
the marks/rank obtained. The qualification of scribe should be disclosed in
details like subject studied and marks and all. This along with harsher
punishment claiuse (for malpractice) should have some detrimental effect.
There has been cases like the maths teacher was made a scribe for a maths
exam and all.

Also in my experience , I have observed that scribe helping the examinee
assuming that the small helps are OK and does not break the rule. A more
detailed Do's and Don'ts could again be a deterrent.

Thanks
Amit Jain

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Kanchan Pamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Avinash
> Agree with you completely.
> However someone has gone to the Bombay High Court and asked for ban of
> private scribes. Luckily court has not agreed but has put the onus on the
> Expert Committeee which is meeting tomorrow.
> Will try and send you comments of NIVH to understand how we are going to
> fall.
>
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> No limitations should be imposed on scribes. The only remedy to check the
> mal-practices is strict vigilance. Just think how non-scribe user
> examinees are not allowed to cheat cause the strict enforcement
> mechanisms. the limitation such as Educational qualification is an absurd
> and the government had rightly done away with in the past.
> Until we've requisite modification in the exam patern for majority of jobs
> and computers are not equipped with screen reading softwares at the exam
> venue, the candidates should not be burdened with unnecessary
> limitations/restrictions. You please lobby for reforms in the patern of
> exams rather than putting archaic restrictions which had ruined many
> brilliant candidates' future due to discriminatory writer rules.
>
>
>
> On 12/14/17, Kanchan Pamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Referring to OM of 26th Feb 2013
> >
> > What limitations can we allow on scribes
> >
> >
> >
> > This is critical because tomorrow there is a meeting.
> >
> >
> >
> > Someone has gone to the Bombay High Court and asked that private
> > scribes be banned. Luckily the court has not agreed with this decision.
> >
> > However we will have to agree to some restrictions.
> >
> > The malpractises and complaints about malpractises is going out of hand.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please help!
> >
> > At present there is no limitation and there is wide spread  misuse by
> > our community
> >
> >
> >
> > K
> >
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