Damian wrote:

>  i left Wellington for a number of reasons. pertinent to this discussion
> was my growing sense that there were a whole lot people in the city,
> interested in similar things as myself, who worked in isolation and
> didn't share, not because they didn't want to but because (like myself)
> they didn't realise their work might be valuable to other people, and
> even if they did think it was valuable there was no established place to
> share it.


How about thinking of established *methods* to share?  Why the 'lab'
obsession?

> the arts market in New Zealand is as far as i could tell lost
> in post-colonialism and so heavy with theoretical nonsense that i always
> felt it was impossible to approach it coming as i am from a position of
> having no formal arts training.


But having a CNZ funded something-lab isn't going to refocus the NZ art
world -- it is going to reflect it.  OK, so you mentioned before you
were keen on corporate co-sponsorship, but that won't help the art.
It'll morph into 'innovation'.

> i started organising events to try to rectify what i saw as a tragedy of
> lost opportunities. this was the point of the Bleep series of workshops,
> and although they were successful in doing what i was hoping to achieve,
> i quickly realised that without any infrastructure the overhead of
> effort was enormous, and that i was not cut out for organising events;
> moreover without follow-up the social aspect was quickly lost, and it
> was hard to make these follow-ups happen in an informal way.


Isn't this an argument against a hack-space: it will fail, because in
your actually experienced reality nobody cares much?

> when i put together Sounds Like Light, Lights Like Sound for the
> Fringe festival in 2007, i thought that because the work that i was
> making was coming from a more practical approach to artistic work, it
> was somehow lesser art, or perhaps not even art at all because it was
> so technical. these feelings are something that of course come from
> my identity as a New Zealander, but i know that if there had been a
> hacklab space in Wellington i would not have felt so isolated and
> confused about what it was that i was actually doing, and as a result
> i believe the work i could make would have been much better.

> that's what it means to me, and that's why i care, because i know there
> are other people back home dealing with the same shit i was dealing with
> in my head, and that since such a place would have helped me, it could
> help them too.


You know Damian, probably not.  Young men, early twenties, feeling
isolated and confused, think they might be artists?  There is nothing
that can help them.


Douglas

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