Douglas Bagnall wrote:

 > How about thinking of established *methods* to share?  Why the 'lab'
 > obsession?

what methods? this is my point. working in isolation, i didn't have any 
'methods'. i didn't even know what a 'method' could be. i just thrashed 
around and made shit (i guess you can call that a 'method', it's kind of 
what i'm still doing anyway). the point of a 'lab' is to have a single 
place where people can go. for some of us, internet-only communication just 
doesn't cut it.

 >> the arts market in New Zealand is as far as i could tell lost
 >> in post-colonialism and so heavy with theoretical nonsense that i always
 >> felt it was impossible to approach it coming as i am from a position of
 >> having no formal arts training.
 >
 > But having a CNZ funded something-lab isn't going to refocus the NZ art
 > world -- it is going to reflect it.  OK, so you mentioned before you
 > were keen on corporate co-sponsorship, but that won't help the art.
 > It'll morph into 'innovation'.

if you drop the CNZ funding, does your point still hold? i don't 
understand: why the negativity? what is so 'unique' about New Zealand that 
means that what works very well in more or less every country in the world 
just won't work there?

 > Isn't this an argument against a hack-space: it will fail, because in
 > your actually experienced reality nobody cares much?

no.

 >> that's what it means to me, and that's why i care, because i know there
 >> are other people back home dealing with the same shit i was dealing with
 >> in my head, and that since such a place would have helped me, it could
 >> help them too.
 >
 > You know Damian, probably not.  Young men, early twenties, feeling
 > isolated and confused, think they might be artists?  There is nothing
 > that can help them.

harden up, huh? fucking kiwi.

-- 
damian stewart | skype: damiansnz | [email protected]
frey | live art with machines | http://www.frey.co.nz

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