IPv6 seems like religion and politics, discussion doesn't seem to accomplish much.
-----Original Message----- From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 10:59 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>; Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space Prices for IPv4 on the secondary market continue to rise... that doesn't sound like a commodity that's on its way out.. that sounds like something that's very much alive and in demand. On 10/23/19 11:54 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Not a penny wise, but definitely a pound foolish. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentC > omputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent- > computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/m > idwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Wednesday, October 23, 2019 8:01:22 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space > > FUD ALERT! FUD ALERT! IPv4 is not going away any time soon, it's > not practical. There are too many things that rely on IPv4. And > until I can run only one stack I'm not planning to mass deploy IPv6. > We have an IPv6 deployment plan, but there is minimal benefit in dual > stacking and no financial gain until we need to. > > Right now there is a negative benefit for deploying IPv6 (overhead, > management, no ROI, can't bill customers for static IPs). > > We have a plan, but until it's needed we don't plan to roll it out. > IPv4 will be here for many years to come. > > On 10/23/19 8:54 AM, dave via AF wrote: > > > > Yeah.. No.. > > They are more up to date than you think just not ahead > > On > 10/21/19 2:20 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >> yeah, no. > >> .gov agencies still run dos > >> 10 years at best til the ones that matter will be organized enough > to >> shut down ip4 access >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 2:12 > PM Dennis Burgess via AF <af@af.afmug.com >> > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Keep in mind that IPv6 will be necessary within 2-4 years, if > the >> .govs shutdown access via v4 for security reasons. No > more FCC/ >> IRS or any .GOV unless over v6. Note that the > current plan is 2-3 >> years, I have given it an extra year for measure! > >> > >> V6 should be deployed NOW. Not later, when you HAVE TO. > Then >> you will be making mistakes etc. > >> > >> *LTI-Full_175px* > >> > >> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer >> MTCNA, > MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium >> > ePMP Certified * >> >> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second > Edition” > >> > >> *Link Technologies, Inc*-- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services > >> >> *Office*: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net > >> <http://www.linktechs.net/> >> >> Create Wireless > Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com >> > <http://www.towercoverage.com> >> >> *From:* AF > <af-boun...@af.afmug.com >> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On > Behalf Of * Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Monday, October 21, 2019 2:07 > PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com >> > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP > space >> >> NAT problems with BGP are why we are looking for > more IP space >> >> IP6 is still years out for us >> >> On > Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 1:43 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com >> > <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> If you're not doing it already, start thinking about dual > >> stack with IPv4 CGN and IPv6 public IPs. There's a > learning >> curve, but it's not that bad. > >> > >> -Adam > >> > >> On 10/21/2019 12:51 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >> > >> Where is the best place to get these? How do we verify > >> space has a decent reputation so we dont go through > months >> of cleanup and all that stuff? > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
