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Police cars, whether they are state troopers, sheriff, or city
cops spend a huge amount of time just idling. When they're doing
this, they get zero MPG. This has a remarkable impact on their
overall mileage, not to mention cost to operate. Based on what
I've read and seen, an electric cruiser would be a great benefit.
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On 11/30/2019 7:34 AM, Steve Jones
wrote:
There is no instance where simple increase in
speed will take you from 50 miles range to 8 in a gas vehicle.
Even heavy braking and hard acceleration. Maybe an 8 mile burn
out would consume 50 miles worth of fuel, but then that's not a
simple increase in speed.
Matt,
I don't believe you've ever actually given any
attention to your gas vehicle while driving it. Look at
your mpg during normal driving with no load and temps
about 65. Then check mpg when it's below 30, then again
when you have a trailer attached, then again by pretending
you're in a police chase and accelerating heavily.
Your mpg will change at nearly equal percentage to
electric vehicles.
Don't knock it until you try it. I've got 35,000 miles
on my Tesla so far and made it through a Minnesota winter
already and just going into our second winter. I've
learned a lot but at the end of the day, I've never ran
out of juice and my car is no less efficient than a gas
car in the same driving conditions.
You've obviously never heard of all the police chases
where their gas vehicles run out of gas during a chase
either. It happens all the time actually, it just doesn't
make the news because it's not a Tesla. I've talked with
state troopers and our sheriff's department and they all
have stories of cars running out of gas during highspeed
chases because they're putting way more load on their
cars.
So instead of being a hater just because you can, why
don't you schedule a test drive of a Tesla or other EV's
and you can learn something. I'll say it again, EV's today
work for 99% of drivers in the US. In another 2 years with
more charging infrastructure, they'll work for 100% of
drivers all the time and there will be zero chance of
running out of juice.
That’s a fan boy answer. Yes it is the
cars fault. The car said 50 miles of range. Which then
dropped to 8 because electric motors aren’t efficient
at high speeds.
For that police chase article, the
department actually updated and said the car
wasn't fully charged the night before from the
officer who used it last. He forgot to plug it in
so the car never started the shift with a full
charge. Not the Teslas fault.
Matt,
You said gas is the same no
matter what. That's totally false. Mpg gets
worse in every gad vehicle with cold temps
and higher loads as well.
In the cold, I've always lost
4 to 8 mpg in my truck or Honda accord in
the winter. With the snowmobile trailer
pulling behind our chevy, we get about 10mpg
compared to our 19mpg without it.
I'm not sure why you would say
gas vehicles are immune to the same things
that affect battery range.
Anyway, plugging in every
night pretty much handles 99% of most
peoples daily miles. I can day our work vans
definitely don't drive more than the 300 to
500 mile range the truck will have. My model
3 is 310 miles with normal weather and in
the winter, about 250 miles which always
takes care of my daily drive. Roadtrips have
superchargers all over except in north
Dakota. It's on their to do list.
Thanks
for bringing that up, Chuck.
This is exactly what scares me about
electric vehicles and an electric
truck:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/tesla-police-car-chase.html
“We think it started the pursuit with about
50 miles left on the charge,
but when cars accelerate at speeds such as
the situation, going over 110
miles per hour, the car charge starts to
drain down faster,” Ms. Bosques
said.
The officer had "50 miles" left on the
charge, but as soon as he started
the chase the range dropped to 8 miles and
he had to call off the chase.
Imagine having your truck say you have 100
miles to go, and you start up
a steep mountain incline to get to a tower
site and suddenly get
stranded because it dropped to 10 miles of
range from the load of
pulling up the hill.
Gas - I always know what I have and in
general it's the same no matter what.
Electric - Huge variations depending on
temperature and usage.
On 11/30/19 8:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> Depends on distance. My car is always
charged. So I always have 200 miles on the
tank. At the end of a full day of driving
yes it needs to be charged. Local police
departments are making Teslas work. Just
takes a different mindset. No maintenance
and a truck good for a half million miles
with no fuel costs is pretty attractive to
me (I charge with solar).
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