This virus has beennknown at least since early december. It been known
outside china since early january, well outside the 3 to 4 weeks. Still
under 300 outside china. I literally ignore the china numbers, they have
the worst air quality in recorded history on the planet.
Kung flu is less concerning than west Nile, and i dont worry about that
either
On Sun, Feb 9, 2020, 8:27 PM Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
wrote:
> It literally takes 3-4 weeks for the virus to peak. We are only just
> finding infected people now.
>
> Give it two more weeks and let’s see where we are.
>
> Remember there is a 14 day incubation phase where the carrier has no
> symptoms but is infectious.
>
> Then the person may become ill for a week or so, then feel better before
> becoming terminal.
>
> The entire timeline is about 4 weeks.
>
> > On Feb 9, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > None, zero, have been in the US. One in the Philipines. One in Hong
> Kong. All the rest in China. Only a dozen infections in the US; none fatal
> so far.
> >
> > 10,000 died from the flu in the US. 19 million flu infections in the US.
> >
> >
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> >> On 2/9/2020 3:25 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> >> Let me fix that for you:
> >> Coronavirus: 800 (that have been reported). Many more who have died
> without being tested. Also China marks cause of death as the final reason
> (eg Pneumonia, or Heart Attack).
> >>
> >> So the numbers being reported are not accurate.
> >>
> >>> On Feb 9, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Here is a counterpoint. So far this season, 10,000 people have died in
> the US from the flu. That makes the score flu 10,000, coronavirus 0.
> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.pressenza.com/2020/02/the-flu-has-killed-10000-americans-this-season/
> >>>
> >>> Maybe the appropriate action is (was?) to just get a flu shot.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> bp
> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>
> >>>> On 2/7/2020 9:40 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> >>>> There have been two fatalities THAT WE KNOW OF. We've only just
> started. It's been an extremely rough flu season here in the U.S.... maybe
> it's not the flu?
> >>>>
> >>>> 2019-nCoV has a 14 week incubation period... meaning spreading is
> happening before people even know it -- thus making this particularly
> dangerous.
> >>>>
> >>>> In about the next two weeks we'll have a much better picture on
> what's going on and what's going to be going on, but on CN and elsewhere
> in the world.
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem right now is it takes 14 days to incubate and about 7
> days to get a report back on a positive/negative test culture, so there is
> a very long lag and we are currently sitting in it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now I ask you: is the reason there have only been 2 fatalities
> because the health care systems are not yet overwhelmed elsewhere?
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 2/7/20 12:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> >>>>> You don't have to "trust" the Chinese, but you can probably trust
> the reports from everywhere else. The fact is that there have been 2
> fatalities outside of mainland China.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just stay away from bat soup.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> bp
> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2/7/2020 9:00 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> >>>>>> So let me get this straight. A virus that is not a big deal has
> caused China to:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Send the president into hiding
> >>>>>> Build several emergency hospitals
> >>>>>> Lock down major cities
> >>>>>> Extend the CNY
> >>>>>> In some cases barricade people in their homes
> >>>>>> Daily fumigation of streets
> >>>>>> Crematories running 24x7 to burning the dead bodies
> >>>>>> People being forcibly removed from their homes and taken into
> quarantine
> >>>>>> Suspicious deaths around doctors revealing information
> >>>>>> Extreme China censorship even to U. S. online forums
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> China has also sent out a blank response to their citizens for
> anyone dealing in international trade. If asked how things are going they
> all respond with extremely similar answers about how everything is
> contained in Wuhan and things are fine. Literally down to the same wording
> in cases.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tell me. What does China know about this “not a big deal Virus”
> that we don’t that they are willing to risk their economy?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This thing is being overblown in a big way. First, the fatality
> rate is below 2% (which is pretty low as far as these things go). Second,
> the infectiousness is fairly low as well; somewhere between 1.5 and 3
> (measles by comparison is rated at 15).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So the virus is not all that infectious, and it is not all that
> fatal.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Fear driven journalism.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> bp
> >>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2/7/2020 8:20 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
> the map
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:19 AM Steve Jones <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> this is the Johns Hopkins map
> >>>>>>>> Pretty much all the prediction models of global pandemic have
> >>>>>>>> been wrong. Recoveries are out pacing deaths. It hasnt spread
> >>>>>>>> outside china beyond the two people who had sex with people
> who
> >>>>>>>> had been infected in china. theyre offloading a cruise ship in
> >>>>>>>> New Jersey today apparently so our numbers will have a small
> >>>>>>>> jump. Its a 3rd world respiratory illness. chinese air is the
> >>>>>>>> dirtiest on the planet.
> >>>>>>>> I have a tool that shipped out of Wuhan a few weeks ago, i
> will
> >>>>>>>> lick it when it gets here and then come breath on people.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> UBNT probably is dropping because theyre not a CBRS LTE Player
> >>>>>>>> and theyre kind of stagnant in general right now
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
> >>>>>>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I don’t follow UBNT but I would have to guess it has
> >>>>>>>> something to do with the Wuhan virus and the fact that all
> >>>>>>>> their stuff is made in China?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I have been tempted to post asking if any WISPs are
> starting
> >>>>>>>> to stockpile equipment that might be in short supply this
> >>>>>>>> year. I know China will try not to let the virus impact
> >>>>>>>> their manufacturing and exports, but it’s hard to see how
> it
> >>>>>>>> won’t. It could also spread to other countries in the
> area
> >>>>>>>> that do a lot of electronic component manufacturing and
> >>>>>>>> assembly work. I have already seen some predictions that
> TV
> >>>>>>>> supplies may be affected.
> >>>>>>>>
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