Chinese are very susceptible to new respiratory diseases, i think their three year old probably havenlungs that look like mine and ive smokes for 30 years. My guess is their immune systems are taxed keeping community immunity pathogens like the flu at bay. When a new pathogen is introduced they just dont have the immune fortitude to do much. There is lead contamination in everything over there, they probably feel safer drinking mercury than their water. They havent really gotten into the details of who in the population is most affected. My guess is it is not the wealthy who are afforded a different quality of general healthcare than are the normal people. I think youd see a similar rate of infection in other totalitarian regimes like north korea. Now a cruise ship is the great equalizer, lock everybody in the same can while the pathogens breed and everybody becomes the same class.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 8:07 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: > And a counterpoint... CN has the flu too, and many die from it. But > they aren't driving around spraying disenfectant out of fogging trucks > to battle the flu. Prep, don't prep, doesn't matter to me. But saying > that others don't need to worry about it is being an authority on > something there are no authorities on except those in a country that > doesn't care if the rest of the world is in trouble.. & it sounds like > a lot of those that are on the front lines fighting this are dying... > > On 2/9/20 3:25 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > > Let me fix that for you: > > Coronavirus: 800 (that have been reported). Many more who have died > without being tested. Also China marks cause of death as the final reason > (eg Pneumonia, or Heart Attack). > > > > So the numbers being reported are not accurate. > > > >> On Feb 9, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Here is a counterpoint. So far this season, 10,000 people have died in > the US from the flu. That makes the score flu 10,000, coronavirus 0. > >> > >> > https://www.pressenza.com/2020/02/the-flu-has-killed-10000-americans-this-season/ > >> > >> Maybe the appropriate action is (was?) to just get a flu shot. > >> > >> > >> bp > >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > >> > >>> On 2/7/2020 9:40 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > >>> There have been two fatalities THAT WE KNOW OF. We've only just > started. It's been an extremely rough flu season here in the U.S.... maybe > it's not the flu? > >>> > >>> 2019-nCoV has a 14 week incubation period... meaning spreading is > happening before people even know it -- thus making this particularly > dangerous. > >>> > >>> In about the next two weeks we'll have a much better picture on what's > going on and what's going to be going on, but on CN and elsewhere in the > world. > >>> > >>> The problem right now is it takes 14 days to incubate and about 7 days > to get a report back on a positive/negative test culture, so there is a > very long lag and we are currently sitting in it. > >>> > >>> Now I ask you: is the reason there have only been 2 fatalities because > the health care systems are not yet overwhelmed elsewhere? > >>> > >>>> On 2/7/20 12:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > >>>> You don't have to "trust" the Chinese, but you can probably trust the > reports from everywhere else. The fact is that there have been 2 fatalities > outside of mainland China. > >>>> > >>>> Just stay away from bat soup. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> bp > >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > >>>> > >>>>> On 2/7/2020 9:00 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > >>>>> So let me get this straight. A virus that is not a big deal has > caused China to: > >>>>> > >>>>> Send the president into hiding > >>>>> Build several emergency hospitals > >>>>> Lock down major cities > >>>>> Extend the CNY > >>>>> In some cases barricade people in their homes > >>>>> Daily fumigation of streets > >>>>> Crematories running 24x7 to burning the dead bodies > >>>>> People being forcibly removed from their homes and taken into > quarantine > >>>>> Suspicious deaths around doctors revealing information > >>>>> Extreme China censorship even to U. S. online forums > >>>>> > >>>>> China has also sent out a blank response to their citizens for > anyone dealing in international trade. If asked how things are going they > all respond with extremely similar answers about how everything is > contained in Wuhan and things are fine. Literally down to the same wording > in cases. > >>>>> > >>>>> Tell me. What does China know about this “not a big deal Virus” that > we don’t that they are willing to risk their economy? > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Feb 7, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com > <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This thing is being overblown in a big way. First, the fatality > rate is below 2% (which is pretty low as far as these things go). Second, > the infectiousness is fairly low as well; somewhere between 1.5 and 3 > (measles by comparison is rated at 15). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So the virus is not all that infectious, and it is not all that > fatal. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Fear driven journalism. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> bp > >>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 2/7/2020 8:20 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > >>>>>>> > https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 > the map > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:19 AM Steve Jones < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> this is the Johns Hopkins map > >>>>>>> Pretty much all the prediction models of global pandemic have > >>>>>>> been wrong. Recoveries are out pacing deaths. It hasnt spread > >>>>>>> outside china beyond the two people who had sex with people > who > >>>>>>> had been infected in china. theyre offloading a cruise ship in > >>>>>>> New Jersey today apparently so our numbers will have a small > >>>>>>> jump. Its a 3rd world respiratory illness. chinese air is the > >>>>>>> dirtiest on the planet. > >>>>>>> I have a tool that shipped out of Wuhan a few weeks ago, i > will > >>>>>>> lick it when it gets here and then come breath on people. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> UBNT probably is dropping because theyre not a CBRS LTE Player > >>>>>>> and theyre kind of stagnant in general right now > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com > >>>>>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I don’t follow UBNT but I would have to guess it has > >>>>>>> something to do with the Wuhan virus and the fact that all > >>>>>>> their stuff is made in China? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been tempted to post asking if any WISPs are > starting > >>>>>>> to stockpile equipment that might be in short supply this > >>>>>>> year. I know China will try not to let the virus impact > >>>>>>> their manufacturing and exports, but it’s hard to see how > it > >>>>>>> won’t. It could also spread to other countries in the > area > >>>>>>> that do a lot of electronic component manufacturing and > >>>>>>> assembly work. 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