Can we re-start this thread as OT: as it's no longer strongly related to
WISP topics? Unless we wish to change the subject to equipment sourcing;
from my recent communications and attempts it seems like a big part of the
world's fiber SFPs are manufactured in the Shenzhen region.
My understanding is that a high number of cases / deaths were not being
diagnosed as the disease as the Wuhan hospitals etc. are extremely
overloaded and test kits are hard to get / slow - some experts have said
that the true number of infections could be 100K+ by now.
On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 7:58 AM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
> And Beijing is now on lock down.
>
> Still thinking this isn’t something to be concerned about?
>
> Chiba knows something they aren’t telling the rest of the world.
>
> On Feb 9, 2020, at 10:57 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I do expect some of the more nefarious vendors to make hay on this though.
> Just like they did on the tarrifs. Between kung flu and tarriffs, there
> arensome companies my boss will have to punch me in the mouth if he wants
> me to buy the gear.
>
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020, 9:54 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This virus has beennknown at least since early december. It been known
>> outside china since early january, well outside the 3 to 4 weeks. Still
>> under 300 outside china. I literally ignore the china numbers, they have
>> the worst air quality in recorded history on the planet.
>> Kung flu is less concerning than west Nile, and i dont worry about that
>> either
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020, 8:27 PM Matt Hoppes <
>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>
>>> It literally takes 3-4 weeks for the virus to peak. We are only just
>>> finding infected people now.
>>>
>>> Give it two more weeks and let’s see where we are.
>>>
>>> Remember there is a 14 day incubation phase where the carrier has no
>>> symptoms but is infectious.
>>>
>>> Then the person may become ill for a week or so, then feel better before
>>> becoming terminal.
>>>
>>> The entire timeline is about 4 weeks.
>>>
>>> > On Feb 9, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > None, zero, have been in the US. One in the Philipines. One in Hong
>>> Kong. All the rest in China. Only a dozen infections in the US; none fatal
>>> so far.
>>> >
>>> > 10,000 died from the flu in the US. 19 million flu infections in the
>>> US.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > bp
>>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >
>>> >> On 2/9/2020 3:25 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>> >> Let me fix that for you:
>>> >> Coronavirus: 800 (that have been reported). Many more who have died
>>> without being tested. Also China marks cause of death as the final reason
>>> (eg Pneumonia, or Heart Attack).
>>> >>
>>> >> So the numbers being reported are not accurate.
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Feb 9, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Here is a counterpoint. So far this season, 10,000 people have died
>>> in the US from the flu. That makes the score flu 10,000, coronavirus 0.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> https://www.pressenza.com/2020/02/the-flu-has-killed-10000-americans-this-season/
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Maybe the appropriate action is (was?) to just get a flu shot.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> bp
>>> >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On 2/7/2020 9:40 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>> >>>> There have been two fatalities THAT WE KNOW OF. We've only just
>>> started. It's been an extremely rough flu season here in the U.S.... maybe
>>> it's not the flu?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> 2019-nCoV has a 14 week incubation period... meaning spreading is
>>> happening before people even know it -- thus making this particularly
>>> dangerous.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> In about the next two weeks we'll have a much better picture on
>>> what's going on and what's going to be going on, but on CN and elsewhere
>>> in the world.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> The problem right now is it takes 14 days to incubate and about 7
>>> days to get a report back on a positive/negative test culture, so there is
>>> a very long lag and we are currently sitting in it.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Now I ask you: is the reason there have only been 2 fatalities
>>> because the health care systems are not yet overwhelmed elsewhere?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> On 2/7/20 12:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>> >>>>> You don't have to "trust" the Chinese, but you can probably trust
>>> the reports from everywhere else. The fact is that there have been 2
>>> fatalities outside of mainland China.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Just stay away from bat soup.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> bp
>>> >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 2/7/2020 9:00 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>> >>>>>> So let me get this straight. A virus that is not a big deal has
>>> caused China to:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Send the president into hiding
>>> >>>>>> Build several emergency hospitals
>>> >>>>>> Lock down major cities
>>> >>>>>> Extend the CNY
>>> >>>>>> In some cases barricade people in their homes
>>> >>>>>> Daily fumigation of streets
>>> >>>>>> Crematories running 24x7 to burning the dead bodies
>>> >>>>>> People being forcibly removed from their homes and taken into
>>> quarantine
>>> >>>>>> Suspicious deaths around doctors revealing information
>>> >>>>>> Extreme China censorship even to U. S. online forums
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> China has also sent out a blank response to their citizens for
>>> anyone dealing in international trade. If asked how things are going they
>>> all respond with extremely similar answers about how everything is
>>> contained in Wuhan and things are fine. Literally down to the same wording
>>> in cases.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Tell me. What does China know about this “not a big deal Virus”
>>> that we don’t that they are willing to risk their economy?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> This thing is being overblown in a big way. First, the fatality
>>> rate is below 2% (which is pretty low as far as these things go). Second,
>>> the infectiousness is fairly low as well; somewhere between 1.5 and 3
>>> (measles by comparison is rated at 15).
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> So the virus is not all that infectious, and it is not all that
>>> fatal.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Fear driven journalism.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> bp
>>> >>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On 2/7/2020 8:20 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
>>> the map
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:19 AM Steve Jones <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> this is the Johns Hopkins map
>>> >>>>>>>> Pretty much all the prediction models of global pandemic
>>> have
>>> >>>>>>>> been wrong. Recoveries are out pacing deaths. It hasnt
>>> spread
>>> >>>>>>>> outside china beyond the two people who had sex with people
>>> who
>>> >>>>>>>> had been infected in china. theyre offloading a cruise ship
>>> in
>>> >>>>>>>> New Jersey today apparently so our numbers will have a small
>>> >>>>>>>> jump. Its a 3rd world respiratory illness. chinese air is
>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>> dirtiest on the planet.
>>> >>>>>>>> I have a tool that shipped out of Wuhan a few weeks ago, i
>>> will
>>> >>>>>>>> lick it when it gets here and then come breath on people.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> UBNT probably is dropping because theyre not a CBRS LTE
>>> Player
>>> >>>>>>>> and theyre kind of stagnant in general right now
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> I don’t follow UBNT but I would have to guess it has
>>> >>>>>>>> something to do with the Wuhan virus and the fact that
>>> all
>>> >>>>>>>> their stuff is made in China?
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> I have been tempted to post asking if any WISPs are
>>> starting
>>> >>>>>>>> to stockpile equipment that might be in short supply
>>> this
>>> >>>>>>>> year. I know China will try not to let the virus impact
>>> >>>>>>>> their manufacturing and exports, but it’s hard to see
>>> how it
>>> >>>>>>>> won’t. It could also spread to other countries in the
>>> area
>>> >>>>>>>> that do a lot of electronic component manufacturing and
>>> >>>>>>>> assembly work. I have already seen some predictions
>>> that TV
>>> >>>>>>>> supplies may be affected.
>>> >>>>>>>>
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