In the US?  Bill said US.

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> On Feb 9, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Let me fix that for you:
> Coronavirus: 800 (that have been reported). Many more who have died without 
> being tested. Also China marks cause of death as the final reason (eg 
> Pneumonia, or Heart Attack). 
> 
> So the numbers being reported are not accurate.  
> 
>> On Feb 9, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Here is a counterpoint. So far this season, 10,000 people have died in the 
>> US from the flu. That makes the score flu 10,000, coronavirus 0.
>> 
>> https://www.pressenza.com/2020/02/the-flu-has-killed-10000-americans-this-season/
>> 
>> Maybe the appropriate action is (was?) to just get a flu shot.
>> 
>> 
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> 
>>>> On 2/7/2020 9:40 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>> There have been two fatalities THAT WE KNOW OF.   We've only just started.  
>>> It's been an extremely rough flu season here in the U.S.... maybe it's not 
>>> the flu?
>>> 
>>> 2019-nCoV has a 14 week incubation period... meaning spreading is happening 
>>> before people even know it -- thus making this particularly dangerous.
>>> 
>>> In about the next two weeks we'll have a much better picture on what's 
>>> going on and what's going to  be going on, but on CN and elsewhere in the 
>>> world.
>>> 
>>> The problem right now is it takes 14 days to incubate and about 7 days to 
>>> get a report back on a positive/negative test culture, so there is a very 
>>> long lag and we are currently sitting in it.
>>> 
>>> Now I ask you: is the reason there have only been 2 fatalities because the 
>>> health care systems are not yet overwhelmed elsewhere?
>>> 
>>>> On 2/7/20 12:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>> You don't have to "trust" the Chinese, but you can probably trust the 
>>>> reports from everywhere else. The fact is that there have been 2 
>>>> fatalities outside of mainland China.
>>>> 
>>>> Just stay away from bat soup.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/7/2020 9:00 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>>> So let me get this straight. A virus that is not a big deal has caused 
>>>>> China to:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Send the president into hiding
>>>>> Build several emergency hospitals
>>>>> Lock down major cities
>>>>> Extend the CNY
>>>>> In some cases barricade people in their homes
>>>>> Daily fumigation of streets
>>>>> Crematories running 24x7 to burning the dead bodies
>>>>> People being forcibly removed from their homes and taken into quarantine
>>>>> Suspicious deaths around doctors revealing information
>>>>> Extreme China censorship even to U. S. online forums
>>>>> 
>>>>> China has also sent out a blank response to their citizens for anyone 
>>>>> dealing in international trade. If asked how things are going they all 
>>>>> respond with extremely similar answers about how everything is contained 
>>>>> in Wuhan and things are fine. Literally down to the same wording in cases.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tell me. What does China know about this “not a big deal Virus” that we 
>>>>> don’t that they are willing to risk their economy?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This thing is being overblown in a big way. First, the fatality rate is 
>>>>>> below 2% (which is pretty low as far as these things go). Second, the 
>>>>>> infectiousness is fairly low as well; somewhere between 1.5 and 3 
>>>>>> (measles by comparison is rated at 15).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So the virus is not all that infectious, and it is not all that fatal.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fear driven journalism.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> bp
>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2/7/2020 8:20 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>>>> https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
>>>>>>>  the map
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:19 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    this is the Johns Hopkins map
>>>>>>>    Pretty much all the prediction models of global pandemic have
>>>>>>>    been wrong. Recoveries are out pacing deaths. It hasnt spread
>>>>>>>    outside china beyond the two people who had sex with people who
>>>>>>>    had been infected in china. theyre offloading a cruise ship in
>>>>>>>    New Jersey today apparently so our numbers will have a small
>>>>>>>    jump. Its a 3rd world respiratory illness. chinese air is the
>>>>>>>    dirtiest on the planet.
>>>>>>>    I have a tool that shipped out of Wuhan a few weeks ago, i will
>>>>>>>    lick it when it gets here and then come breath on people.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    UBNT probably is dropping because theyre not a CBRS LTE Player
>>>>>>>    and theyre kind of stagnant in general right now
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>    On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
>>>>>>>    <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        I don’t follow UBNT but I would have to guess it has
>>>>>>>        something to do with the Wuhan virus and the fact that all
>>>>>>>        their stuff is made in China?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        I have been tempted to post asking if any WISPs are starting
>>>>>>>        to stockpile equipment that might be in short supply this
>>>>>>>        year.  I know China will try not to let the virus impact
>>>>>>>        their manufacturing and exports, but it’s hard to see how it
>>>>>>>        won’t.  It could also spread to other countries in the area
>>>>>>>        that do a lot of electronic component manufacturing and
>>>>>>>        assembly work.  I have already seen some predictions that TV
>>>>>>>        supplies may be affected.
>>>>>>> 
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