And a counterpoint...   CN has the flu too, and many die from it.   But they aren't driving around spraying disenfectant out of fogging trucks to battle the flu.   Prep, don't prep, doesn't matter to me.  But saying that others don't need to worry about it is being an authority on something there are no authorities on except those in a country that doesn't care if the rest of the world is in trouble..  & it sounds like a lot of those that are on the front lines fighting this are dying...

On 2/9/20 3:25 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
Let me fix that for you:
Coronavirus: 800 (that have been reported). Many more who have died without 
being tested. Also China marks cause of death as the final reason (eg 
Pneumonia, or Heart Attack).

So the numbers being reported are not accurate.

On Feb 9, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

Here is a counterpoint. So far this season, 10,000 people have died in the US 
from the flu. That makes the score flu 10,000, coronavirus 0.

https://www.pressenza.com/2020/02/the-flu-has-killed-10000-americans-this-season/

Maybe the appropriate action is (was?) to just get a flu shot.


bp
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On 2/7/2020 9:40 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
There have been two fatalities THAT WE KNOW OF.   We've only just started.  
It's been an extremely rough flu season here in the U.S.... maybe it's not the 
flu?

2019-nCoV has a 14 week incubation period... meaning spreading is happening 
before people even know it -- thus making this particularly dangerous.

In about the next two weeks we'll have a much better picture on what's going on 
and what's going to  be going on, but on CN and elsewhere in the world.

The problem right now is it takes 14 days to incubate and about 7 days to get a 
report back on a positive/negative test culture, so there is a very long lag 
and we are currently sitting in it.

Now I ask you: is the reason there have only been 2 fatalities because the 
health care systems are not yet overwhelmed elsewhere?

On 2/7/20 12:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
You don't have to "trust" the Chinese, but you can probably trust the reports 
from everywhere else. The fact is that there have been 2 fatalities outside of mainland 
China.

Just stay away from bat soup.


bp
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On 2/7/2020 9:00 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
So let me get this straight. A virus that is not a big deal has caused China to:

Send the president into hiding
Build several emergency hospitals
Lock down major cities
Extend the CNY
In some cases barricade people in their homes
Daily fumigation of streets
Crematories running 24x7 to burning the dead bodies
People being forcibly removed from their homes and taken into quarantine
Suspicious deaths around doctors revealing information
Extreme China censorship even to U. S. online forums

China has also sent out a blank response to their citizens for anyone dealing 
in international trade. If asked how things are going they all respond with 
extremely similar answers about how everything is contained in Wuhan and things 
are fine. Literally down to the same wording in cases.

Tell me. What does China know about this “not a big deal Virus” that we don’t 
that they are willing to risk their economy?

On Feb 7, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com 
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This thing is being overblown in a big way. First, the fatality rate is below 
2% (which is pretty low as far as these things go). Second, the infectiousness 
is fairly low as well; somewhere between 1.5 and 3 (measles by comparison is 
rated at 15).

So the virus is not all that infectious, and it is not all that fatal.

Fear driven journalism.


bp
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On 2/7/2020 8:20 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
 the map

On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:19 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

     this is the Johns Hopkins map
     Pretty much all the prediction models of global pandemic have
     been wrong. Recoveries are out pacing deaths. It hasnt spread
     outside china beyond the two people who had sex with people who
     had been infected in china. theyre offloading a cruise ship in
     New Jersey today apparently so our numbers will have a small
     jump. Its a 3rd world respiratory illness. chinese air is the
     dirtiest on the planet.
     I have a tool that shipped out of Wuhan a few weeks ago, i will
     lick it when it gets here and then come breath on people.

     UBNT probably is dropping because theyre not a CBRS LTE Player
     and theyre kind of stagnant in general right now

     On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
     <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

         I don’t follow UBNT but I would have to guess it has
         something to do with the Wuhan virus and the fact that all
         their stuff is made in China?

         I have been tempted to post asking if any WISPs are starting
         to stockpile equipment that might be in short supply this
         year.  I know China will try not to let the virus impact
         their manufacturing and exports, but it’s hard to see how it
         won’t.  It could also spread to other countries in the area
         that do a lot of electronic component manufacturing and
         assembly work.  I have already seen some predictions that TV
         supplies may be affected.

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         <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Rex-List
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