It literally takes 3-4 weeks for the virus to peak. We are only just finding 
infected people now. 

Give it two more weeks and let’s see where we are. 

Remember there is a 14 day incubation phase where the carrier has no symptoms 
but is infectious. 

Then the person may become ill for a week or so, then feel better before 
becoming terminal. 

The entire timeline is about 4 weeks. 

> On Feb 9, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> None, zero, have been in the US. One in the Philipines. One in Hong Kong. All 
> the rest in China. Only a dozen infections in the US; none fatal so far.
> 
> 10,000 died from the flu in the US. 19 million flu infections in the US.
> 
> 
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
>> On 2/9/2020 3:25 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> Let me fix that for you:
>> Coronavirus: 800 (that have been reported). Many more who have died without 
>> being tested. Also China marks cause of death as the final reason (eg 
>> Pneumonia, or Heart Attack).
>> 
>> So the numbers being reported are not accurate.
>> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here is a counterpoint. So far this season, 10,000 people have died in the 
>>> US from the flu. That makes the score flu 10,000, coronavirus 0.
>>> 
>>> https://www.pressenza.com/2020/02/the-flu-has-killed-10000-americans-this-season/
>>> 
>>> Maybe the appropriate action is (was?) to just get a flu shot.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>> 
>>>> On 2/7/2020 9:40 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>> There have been two fatalities THAT WE KNOW OF.   We've only just started. 
>>>>  It's been an extremely rough flu season here in the U.S.... maybe it's 
>>>> not the flu?
>>>> 
>>>> 2019-nCoV has a 14 week incubation period... meaning spreading is 
>>>> happening before people even know it -- thus making this particularly 
>>>> dangerous.
>>>> 
>>>> In about the next two weeks we'll have a much better picture on what's 
>>>> going on and what's going to  be going on, but on CN and elsewhere in the 
>>>> world.
>>>> 
>>>> The problem right now is it takes 14 days to incubate and about 7 days to 
>>>> get a report back on a positive/negative test culture, so there is a very 
>>>> long lag and we are currently sitting in it.
>>>> 
>>>> Now I ask you: is the reason there have only been 2 fatalities because the 
>>>> health care systems are not yet overwhelmed elsewhere?
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/7/20 12:34 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>>> You don't have to "trust" the Chinese, but you can probably trust the 
>>>>> reports from everywhere else. The fact is that there have been 2 
>>>>> fatalities outside of mainland China.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just stay away from bat soup.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2/7/2020 9:00 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>>>> So let me get this straight. A virus that is not a big deal has caused 
>>>>>> China to:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Send the president into hiding
>>>>>> Build several emergency hospitals
>>>>>> Lock down major cities
>>>>>> Extend the CNY
>>>>>> In some cases barricade people in their homes
>>>>>> Daily fumigation of streets
>>>>>> Crematories running 24x7 to burning the dead bodies
>>>>>> People being forcibly removed from their homes and taken into quarantine
>>>>>> Suspicious deaths around doctors revealing information
>>>>>> Extreme China censorship even to U. S. online forums
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> China has also sent out a blank response to their citizens for anyone 
>>>>>> dealing in international trade. If asked how things are going they all 
>>>>>> respond with extremely similar answers about how everything is contained 
>>>>>> in Wuhan and things are fine. Literally down to the same wording in 
>>>>>> cases.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tell me. What does China know about this “not a big deal Virus” that we 
>>>>>> don’t that they are willing to risk their economy?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 7, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This thing is being overblown in a big way. First, the fatality rate is 
>>>>>>> below 2% (which is pretty low as far as these things go). Second, the 
>>>>>>> infectiousness is fairly low as well; somewhere between 1.5 and 3 
>>>>>>> (measles by comparison is rated at 15).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So the virus is not all that infectious, and it is not all that fatal.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Fear driven journalism.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2/7/2020 8:20 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>> https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
>>>>>>>>  the map
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:19 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     this is the Johns Hopkins map
>>>>>>>>     Pretty much all the prediction models of global pandemic have
>>>>>>>>     been wrong. Recoveries are out pacing deaths. It hasnt spread
>>>>>>>>     outside china beyond the two people who had sex with people who
>>>>>>>>     had been infected in china. theyre offloading a cruise ship in
>>>>>>>>     New Jersey today apparently so our numbers will have a small
>>>>>>>>     jump. Its a 3rd world respiratory illness. chinese air is the
>>>>>>>>     dirtiest on the planet.
>>>>>>>>     I have a tool that shipped out of Wuhan a few weeks ago, i will
>>>>>>>>     lick it when it gets here and then come breath on people.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     UBNT probably is dropping because theyre not a CBRS LTE Player
>>>>>>>>     and theyre kind of stagnant in general right now
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:10 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
>>>>>>>>     <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         I don’t follow UBNT but I would have to guess it has
>>>>>>>>         something to do with the Wuhan virus and the fact that all
>>>>>>>>         their stuff is made in China?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         I have been tempted to post asking if any WISPs are starting
>>>>>>>>         to stockpile equipment that might be in short supply this
>>>>>>>>         year.  I know China will try not to let the virus impact
>>>>>>>>         their manufacturing and exports, but it’s hard to see how it
>>>>>>>>         won’t.  It could also spread to other countries in the area
>>>>>>>>         that do a lot of electronic component manufacturing and
>>>>>>>>         assembly work.  I have already seen some predictions that TV
>>>>>>>>         supplies may be affected.
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>         *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti stock
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>         What’s up with the Ubiguiti stock price drop?
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