Someone ought to test that.

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> On Jul 9, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I could have sworn it was afmug sourced, but somewhere along the line I 
> picked up that a shaded enclosure will actually perform better if it is a 
> dark color. The whites and reflective colors are better at reflecting energy 
> off of them, but not at dissipating it, dark colors shed heat better. In a 
> shaded environment reflectivity is moot.
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 11:09 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>> My tests had very little live load.  I think only 100 watts so that is 
>> probably the major difference.
>> We just use a color called satellite white.  I don’t think it matters much. 
>>  
>> From: castarritt
>> Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 9:26 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet
>>  
>> Chuck, is there a specific paint you used to shield against solar radiation? 
>>  I rolled a gallon of white elastomeric roof coating from home depot onto 
>> one of our DDB boxes, and while it did drop the temp slightly, the results 
>> weren't that impressive.  I think the issue with our test is we chose a site 
>> that has ~1.2kW of power draw, so most of the heat was likely from the 
>> equipment in the box rather than direct sunlight.
>>  
>> On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 1:21 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>>> 20+ years ago, I set up 4 identical outdoor enclosures.  Temp telemetry.  
>>> Some live load, don’t remember the details.  They were about 24” cubes.  
>>> All started out as gray.  Tried sun shields, exterior insulation, vents, 
>>> fans, peltier cooling modules.  Silver paint, white paint.  The 
>>> overwhelming #1 thing that lowered temps was the satellite white paint.  By 
>>> a long stretch.  Then filtered powered vents.  Silver paint was worse than 
>>> gray.  I wonder if the railroad still used silver.  Sun shades did little 
>>> to help if the box was satellite white.  Interior styrofoam insulation 
>>> helped a bit, not much, but was cheap and easy to add to the white paint.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Super hot out here in Utah.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> My fiber cabinets running Active switches are getting harder to maintain 
>>>> and AC units on the side of the cabinets are starting to fail faster.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve had the thought of shading them with a permanent four post structure 
>>>> and a reflective white painted cover to shade them from the southern sun 
>>>> exposure.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Then I thought, well, maybe it might be interesting to “shade” the cabinet 
>>>> with solar panels as well.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Is anyone doing this?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> The AE cabinets all have Alpha FXM 15 or 20A units running the UPS to a 
>>>> string of four 12v AGM batteries.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> I do have limited rack space in some of these available since the 
>>>> batteries sit in a slide out section below.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Haven’t done solar in like a decade since I had remote WISP type sites.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Is this doable to offset power costs and also get the temp down for the 
>>>> cabinet?
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Or is it just a huge time suck and money pit for no real return?
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