That is a good point, shade moves.  So the shield will have to be big and maybe 
have vertical features.  I did shades.  Something convinced me they were not 
worth the effort.

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> On Jul 9, 2021, at 8:16 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Those are options. For sure, black will both absorb more and radiate more. 
> The question is if you can keep it shaded. If not, then white is the choice.
> 
> In a perfect world, you would paint it chameleon. White in the sun, and black 
> in the shade/dark.
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>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 6:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>> Someone ought to test that.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Jul 9, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I could have sworn it was afmug sourced, but somewhere along the line I 
>>> picked up that a shaded enclosure will actually perform better if it is a 
>>> dark color. The whites and reflective colors are better at reflecting 
>>> energy off of them, but not at dissipating it, dark colors shed heat 
>>> better. In a shaded environment reflectivity is moot.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021, 11:09 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>>>> My tests had very little live load.  I think only 100 watts so that is 
>>>> probably the major difference.
>>>> We just use a color called satellite white.  I don’t think it matters 
>>>> much. 
>>>>  
>>>> From: castarritt
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 9, 2021 9:26 AM
>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet
>>>>  
>>>> Chuck, is there a specific paint you used to shield against solar 
>>>> radiation?  I rolled a gallon of white elastomeric roof coating from home 
>>>> depot onto one of our DDB boxes, and while it did drop the temp slightly, 
>>>> the results weren't that impressive.  I think the issue with our test is 
>>>> we chose a site that has ~1.2kW of power draw, so most of the heat was 
>>>> likely from the equipment in the box rather than direct sunlight.
>>>>  
>>>> On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 1:21 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
>>>>> 20+ years ago, I set up 4 identical outdoor enclosures.  Temp telemetry.  
>>>>> Some live load, don’t remember the details.  They were about 24” cubes.  
>>>>> All started out as gray.  Tried sun shields, exterior insulation, vents, 
>>>>> fans, peltier cooling modules.  Silver paint, white paint.  The 
>>>>> overwhelming #1 thing that lowered temps was the satellite white paint.  
>>>>> By a long stretch.  Then filtered powered vents.  Silver paint was worse 
>>>>> than gray.  I wonder if the railroad still used silver.  Sun shades did 
>>>>> little to help if the box was satellite white.  Interior styrofoam 
>>>>> insulation helped a bit, not much, but was cheap and easy to add to the 
>>>>> white paint.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 2, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Super hot out here in Utah.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My fiber cabinets running Active switches are getting harder to maintain 
>>>>>> and AC units on the side of the cabinets are starting to fail faster.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve had the thought of shading them with a permanent four post 
>>>>>> structure and a reflective white painted cover to shade them from the 
>>>>>> southern sun exposure.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Then I thought, well, maybe it might be interesting to “shade” the 
>>>>>> cabinet with solar panels as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is anyone doing this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The AE cabinets all have Alpha FXM 15 or 20A units running the UPS to a 
>>>>>> string of four 12v AGM batteries.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do have limited rack space in some of these available since the 
>>>>>> batteries sit in a slide out section below.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Haven’t done solar in like a decade since I had remote WISP type sites.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is this doable to offset power costs and also get the temp down for the 
>>>>>> cabinet?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or is it just a huge time suck and money pit for no real return?
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