Comsearch was built on Friday afternoon keg parties - at least the first 15 years, till we sold the company to someone with a lot more sense and brain cells..
> On Aug 4, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: > > Damn, I have a mini lunch party planned for today. But I missed out on ZZ > top. Too late now. I guess I will have to see if Vanilla Ice is available. > > From: Jan-GAMs <> > Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:42 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com <> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Handling - Did I handle this correctly? > > I worked at this one place that used to have a feed on the last Friday of the > month, till some drunk employee had a car-wreck. So other employers in the > area banned the booze. Bringing the employees together for a free dinner > develops a camaraderie and improves the cohesiveness. I remember one party > where the company brought in ZZ top to celebrate the new ceo. I'm just > saying that a lot of people do better when they feel they work with family. > > On 8/3/21 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> Changing the alignment of the stars would be my first thought. That might >> do it... >> >> Josh Luthman >> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 1:12 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com <>> >> wrote: >> I don't recall ever being able to pull off that transformation. >> >> I took one of those skill path seminars 15-20 years ago. Had to do with >> dealing with problem employees. After 1.5 days of the seminar the bottom >> line was: learn to live with it or fire them. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Matt Hoppes >> Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 10:20 AM >> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; James Howard >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Employee Handling - Did I handle this correctly? >> >> I thought about this. But then that's saying that people are just what >> they are and can't change. >> >> What does it take for someone to change out of a bad cookie into a good >> cookie? >> >> On 8/3/21 10:54 AM, James Howard wrote: >> > Whether the employee was sincere or was manipulating, the behavior will >> > definitely return unless you micromanage them the rest of their >> > employment. Unless you love micro managing people that gets really old in >> > a hurry and then they just return to their “default” behavior. As Chuck >> > said there will likely be resentment for the firing as well as resentment >> > for the micro management as long as they are there. >> > >> > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <>> *On Behalf Of * Josh Luthman >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 3, 2021 8:58 AM >> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <>> >> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Employee Handling - Did I handle this correctly? >> > >> > You just got manipulated. >> > >> > Time will tell, but I wouldn't expect things to get better. >> > >> > Josh Luthman >> > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >> > 1100 Wayne St >> > Suite 1337 >> > Troy, OH 45373 >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 9:46 AM Matt Hoppes >> > <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net <> >> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net <>>> wrote: >> > >> > So I ended up firing the employee at 9am Monday morning, which led to >> > a >> > different direction than I thought it would. >> > >> > Essentially I thought there was going to be a screaming match and >> > accusations about how could I do this to them, etc, what have they >> > ever >> > done wrong. >> > >> > Instead the employee broke down crying and started confiding in me >> > that >> > their life sucks, they can't keep relationships, and they don't know >> > what to do and they need help. >> > >> > After about 30 minutes of talking I took compassion and offered the >> > job >> > back with the following stipulations: >> > >> > * Bad behavior has to have punishment - 2 weeks unpaid leave of job >> > >> > * On return, we immediately sit down and re-work job position so it's >> > more of a work position vs a management position and have clear >> > expectations of what may and may not be done/said as well as what >> > behavior will not be tolerated. >> > >> > * There is a very short leash for the next few months during which >> > time >> > we will be having weekly meetings to review behavior and progress as >> > well as if at any time I see behavior that is inconsistent with what >> > needs to happen we will immediately stop whatever is going on and go >> > talk about it. >> > >> > I still don't know if I made the proper decision. I labored over >> > the >> > firing all weekend making sure I was making the right decision and not >> > in haste, then made the decision Monday morning that it was a 100% >> > firing there would be no other outcome -- but it seemed like there was >> > genuine repentance and remorse and desire to get their life fixed (vs >> > just "crap I lost my job"). >> > >> > As someone who's ultimate goal for any employee is that they become a >> > better person both at work and in their personal life, I felt like I >> > would be doing this person a disservice if I sent them on their way >> > and >> > said "Go in peace, keep warm and well fed" but did nothing for their >> > physical needs. >> > >> > >> > I figure time will quickly tell of the desire to change is genuine or >> > not, and as long as we have clear expectations and rules laid out what >> > harm can there be? The employee did do good work that I myself hated >> > doing, their ability to interact with others was just...... severely >> > lacking. >> > >> > I think this may have been the "rock bottom" event some people need in >> > their life to smack them upside the face. >> > >> > Thoughts? >> > >> > >> > -- >> > AF mailing list >> > AF@af.afmug.com <> <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com <>> >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > *Total Control Panel* >> > >> > >> > >> > Login <https://portal.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net >> > <https://portal.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net>> >> > >> > To: ja...@litewire.net <> >> > <https://portal.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net >> > >> > <https://portal.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net>> >> > >> > From: af-boun...@af.afmug.com <> <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <>> >> > >> > >> > >> > /You received this message because the domain afmug.com >> > <http://afmug.com/> is on your allow >> > list./ >> > >> > >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com <> >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> >> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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