I prefer to have it in house for the 10-20 email addresses it serves for 
employees and other business email addresses.  It is free that way and we don’t 
have to worry about anything else.  But for some reason the server hangs and 
needs to get rebooted, usually about the same time each day.  

Google got difficult, especially for email chains and other things so we 
stopped using them some time ago.  For example, our scanner stopped being able 
to send emails due to something gmail did.  


From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2023 11:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mail servers

How much is your time worth. The free internal server is costing you this. We 
are still using rackspace for subscriber mail and our office emails since its 
same domain and a pita to set up split routing for the mail. The cost of our 
mail is covered by the folks who have dropped service but wanted to keep their 
email, we actually make a tidy profit to cover any administrative stuff. 

for my business I use google. 6 bucks a month per user. The way I look at it is 
if im not making 6 bucks per guy a month I have bigger problems than my email. 
Im a nerd, 20 years ago dicking around with email servers would have been a 
blast. but now its like maintaining a battery powered inverter just so i can 
still use my corded drill. I can, it will work, its not that complicated, but 
its nonetheless a dumb waste of time. 

dealing with hosting email servers is a total waste of any resources unless 
your monetizing it. too large an attack vector

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:18 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

  It is only for our own company email.  No customers on it.  



  From: Tyson Burris 
  Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2023 7:37 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mail servers

  Surgemail is exactly what I used.  Seemed to be a good product.



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  From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steven Kenney via AF
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  Surgemail you could run 1000 customers on a raspberry pi! Not free though.  
Extremely granular configuration options. 



  On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:16 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

    We used Icewarp since 2004 without issues.  At its peak we had thousandth 
of accounts on it, but now just a handful.



    Not free.  And they went to per user licensing so it’s not cost effective 
for hosting anymore, but it’s reasonable for internal email.





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    Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 6:05:45 PM
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    We are having trouble with mailcow.  Anything better out there.  It hangs 
all the time these days.  



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