i got your spam emails this morning

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs
> *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
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>  All mail.com users cannot send you email.  How many other's are blocked
> as well?  Oblivion, must be sweet.
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> On 3/9/23 20:14, Darin Steffl wrote:
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> Gmail is the best. Been using them for our business since 2012. Virtually
> no issues at all aside from a handful of short outages over the last 11
> years.
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> It's hands off, costs very little, and I've NEVER needed to contact them
> for support. We also use Google drive and their version of office apps in
> the cloud. We don't store any files locally at all. All business docs are
> at Google and they're safe there and they handle the backups.
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> I don't see any advantage to hosting local email on your own server. It's
> not worth your time. My time is worth $550/hr roughly when looking at net
> profit so spending even one hour a year trying to manage or fix my own
> email server would cost me more than what I pay Google.
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> We're grandfathered in and think we get 10 free users for gsuite and I pay
> to upgrade storage to 100gb on 2-3 users so we pay less than $60 a year to
> Google for everything. Dirt cheap and great peace mind.
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> This is relating to our internal business use. For customer email, we
> never offered it and never will. Just recommend a free Gmail account and go
> live your best life not having to support email.
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> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 8:47 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> O365 handles SMTP relay for scanners and such really well, we just dealt
> with it a bunch. authenticated IP. I dont scan to a flatbed because the
> Edsel was before my time :-)
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> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
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> I prefer to have it in house for the 10-20 email addresses it serves for
> employees and other business email addresses.  It is free that way and we
> don’t have to worry about anything else.  But for some reason the server
> hangs and needs to get rebooted, usually about the same time each day.
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> Google got difficult, especially for email chains and other things so we
> stopped using them some time ago.  For example, our scanner stopped being
> able to send emails due to something gmail did.
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> *From:* Steve Jones
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> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 11:24 AM
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> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
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> How much is your time worth. The free internal server is costing you this.
> We are still using rackspace for subscriber mail and our office emails
> since its same domain and a pita to set up split routing for the mail. The
> cost of our mail is covered by the folks who have dropped service but
> wanted to keep their email, we actually make a tidy profit to cover any
> administrative stuff.
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> for my business I use google. 6 bucks a month per user. The way I look at
> it is if im not making 6 bucks per guy a month I have bigger problems than
> my email. Im a nerd, 20 years ago dicking around with email servers would
> have been a blast. but now its like maintaining a battery powered inverter
> just so i can still use my corded drill. I can, it will work, its not that
> complicated, but its nonetheless a dumb waste of time.
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> dealing with hosting email servers is a total waste of any resources
> unless your monetizing it. too large an attack vector
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> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:18 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
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> It is only for our own company email.  No customers on it.
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> *From:* Tyson Burris
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> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 7:37 AM
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> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
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> Surgemail is exactly what I used.  Seemed to be a good product.
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> *Tyson Burris, President*
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steven Kenney via AF
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 8:37 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Cc:* Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
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> Surgemail you could run 1000 customers on a raspberry pi! Not free
> though.  Extremely granular configuration options.
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> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:16 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> We used Icewarp since 2004 without issues.  At its peak we had thousandth
> of accounts on it, but now just a handful.
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> Not free.  And they went to per user licensing so it’s not cost effective
> for hosting anymore, but it’s reasonable for internal email.
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF <
> af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 8, 2023 6:05:45 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mail servers
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> We are having trouble with mailcow.  Anything better out there.  It hangs
> all the time these days.
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