All mail from mail.com gets blocked by gmail. Have not been able to
resolve issue for many months. I don't see why I should quit mail.com
to allow gmail to be my overlord. "F" them!
On 3/9/23 11:50, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
I understand your point here.
We still have Icewarp running for a handful of legacy things, but
we’re actually on Office365 for company email. I largely agree with
Steve on this. It’s not worth your trouble to run a mail server anymore.
Office365 has really aggressive spam filtering, you pretty much won’t
get any spam if you use Office365. If you’re the guy with his own
mail server it’s almost inevitable that Microsoft blocks you at some
point for something that seems stupid. They are trigger happy a-holes
about blocking things, but /that’s how they stop all the rest of us
from getting spam./ They’re the hammer and everyone else is the
nail. 1.3 million businesses in the US use Office365 and 87% of
business email users are using Outlook.
Join the collective. The Puppet Masters are benevolent overlords.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
*Sent:* Thursday, March 09, 2023 2:00 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
I prefer to have it in house for the 10-20 email addresses it serves
for employees and other business email addresses. It is free that way
and we don’t have to worry about anything else. But for some reason
the server hangs and needs to get rebooted, usually about the same
time each day.
Google got difficult, especially for email chains and other things so
we stopped using them some time ago. For example, our scanner stopped
being able to send emails due to something gmail did.
*From:*Steve Jones
*Sent:*Thursday, March 9, 2023 11:24 AM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
How much is your time worth. The free internal server is costing you
this. We are still using rackspace for subscriber mail and our office
emails since its same domain and a pita to set up split routing for
the mail. The cost of our mail is covered by the folks who have
dropped service but wanted to keep their email, we actually make a
tidy profit to cover any administrative stuff.
for my business I use google. 6 bucks a month per user. The way I look
at it is if im not making 6 bucks per guy a month I have bigger
problems than my email. Im a nerd, 20 years ago dicking around with
email servers would have been a blast. but now its like maintaining a
battery powered inverter just so i can still use my corded drill. I
can, it will work, its not that complicated, but its nonetheless a
dumb waste of time.
dealing with hosting email servers is a total waste of any resources
unless your monetizing it. too large an attack vector
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:18 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
wrote:
It is only for our own company email. No customers on it.
*From:*Tyson Burris
*Sent:*Thursday, March 9, 2023 7:37 AM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
Surgemail is exactly what I used. Seemed to be a good product.
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*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steven Kenney
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*Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 8:37 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
Surgemail you could run 1000 customers on a raspberry pi! Not free
though. Extremely granular configuration options.
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:16 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
wrote:
We used Icewarp since 2004 without issues. At its peak we had
thousandth of accounts on it, but now just a handful.
Not free. And they went to per user licensing so it’s not
cost effective for hosting anymore, but it’s reasonable for
internal email.
Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown
via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 8, 2023 6:05:45 PM
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*Subject:* [AFMUG] mail servers
We are having trouble with mailcow. Anything better out
there. It hangs all the time these days.
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