Only thing i have a problem with on gmail is I cant integrate onenote and
theres no actually comparable app

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:15 PM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
wrote:

> Gmail is the best. Been using them for our business since 2012. Virtually
> no issues at all aside from a handful of short outages over the last 11
> years.
>
> It's hands off, costs very little, and I've NEVER needed to contact them
> for support. We also use Google drive and their version of office apps in
> the cloud. We don't store any files locally at all. All business docs are
> at Google and they're safe there and they handle the backups.
>
> I don't see any advantage to hosting local email on your own server. It's
> not worth your time. My time is worth $550/hr roughly when looking at net
> profit so spending even one hour a year trying to manage or fix my own
> email server would cost me more than what I pay Google.
>
> We're grandfathered in and think we get 10 free users for gsuite and I pay
> to upgrade storage to 100gb on 2-3 users so we pay less than $60 a year to
> Google for everything. Dirt cheap and great peace mind.
>
> This is relating to our internal business use. For customer email, we
> never offered it and never will. Just recommend a free Gmail account and go
> live your best life not having to support email.
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 8:47 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> O365 handles SMTP relay for scanners and such really well, we just dealt
>> with it a bunch. authenticated IP. I dont scan to a flatbed because the
>> Edsel was before my time :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer to have it in house for the 10-20 email addresses it serves for
>>> employees and other business email addresses.  It is free that way and we
>>> don’t have to worry about anything else.  But for some reason the server
>>> hangs and needs to get rebooted, usually about the same time each day.
>>>
>>> Google got difficult, especially for email chains and other things so we
>>> stopped using them some time ago.  For example, our scanner stopped being
>>> able to send emails due to something gmail did.
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 11:24 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
>>>
>>> How much is your time worth. The free internal server is costing you
>>> this. We are still using rackspace for subscriber mail and our office
>>> emails since its same domain and a pita to set up split routing for the
>>> mail. The cost of our mail is covered by the folks who have dropped service
>>> but wanted to keep their email, we actually make a tidy profit to cover any
>>> administrative stuff.
>>>
>>> for my business I use google. 6 bucks a month per user. The way I look
>>> at it is if im not making 6 bucks per guy a month I have bigger problems
>>> than my email. Im a nerd, 20 years ago dicking around with email servers
>>> would have been a blast. but now its like maintaining a battery powered
>>> inverter just so i can still use my corded drill. I can, it will work, its
>>> not that complicated, but its nonetheless a dumb waste of time.
>>>
>>> dealing with hosting email servers is a total waste of any resources
>>> unless your monetizing it. too large an attack vector
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:18 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is only for our own company email.  No customers on it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Tyson Burris
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 7:37 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Surgemail is exactly what I used.  Seemed to be a good product.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>>
>>>> *Office #* *317-738-0320 *
>>>> *Cell/Direct #* *317-412-1540 *
>>>> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steven Kenney via
>>>> AF
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 8:37 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Cc:* Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Surgemail you could run 1000 customers on a raspberry pi! Not free
>>>> though.  Extremely granular configuration options.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:16 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We used Icewarp since 2004 without issues.  At its peak we had
>>>> thousandth of accounts on it, but now just a handful.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not free.  And they went to per user licensing so it’s not cost
>>>> effective for hosting anymore, but it’s reasonable for internal email.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF <
>>>> af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 8, 2023 6:05:45 PM
>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mail servers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are having trouble with mailcow.  Anything better out there.  It
>>>> hangs all the time these days.
>>>>
>>>>
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