All mail.com users cannot send you email.  How many other's are blocked as well?  Oblivion, must be sweet.

On 3/9/23 20:14, Darin Steffl wrote:
Gmail is the best. Been using them for our business since 2012. Virtually no issues at all aside from a handful of short outages over the last 11 years.

It's hands off, costs very little, and I've NEVER needed to contact them for support. We also use Google drive and their version of office apps in the cloud. We don't store any files locally at all. All business docs are at Google and they're safe there and they handle the backups.

I don't see any advantage to hosting local email on your own server. It's not worth your time. My time is worth $550/hr roughly when looking at net profit so spending even one hour a year trying to manage or fix my own email server would cost me more than what I pay Google.

We're grandfathered in and think we get 10 free users for gsuite and I pay to upgrade storage to 100gb on 2-3 users so we pay less than $60 a year to Google for everything. Dirt cheap and great peace mind.

This is relating to our internal business use. For customer email, we never offered it and never will. Just recommend a free Gmail account and go live your best life not having to support email.

On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 8:47 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

    O365 handles SMTP relay for scanners and such really well, we just
    dealt with it a bunch. authenticated IP. I dont scan to a flatbed
    because the Edsel was before my time :-)




    On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM Chuck McCown via AF
    <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

        I prefer to have it in house for the 10-20 email addresses it
        serves for employees and other business email addresses.  It
        is free that way and we don’t have to worry about anything
        else.  But for some reason the server hangs and needs to get
        rebooted, usually about the same time each day.
        Google got difficult, especially for email chains and other
        things so we stopped using them some time ago.  For example,
        our scanner stopped being able to send emails due to something
        gmail did.
        *From:* Steve Jones
        *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 11:24 AM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
        How much is your time worth. The free internal server is
        costing you this. We are still using rackspace for subscriber
        mail and our office emails since its same domain and a pita to
        set up split routing for the mail. The cost of our mail is
        covered by the folks who have dropped service but wanted to
        keep their email, we actually make a tidy profit to cover any
        administrative stuff.
        for my business I use google. 6 bucks a month per user. The
        way I look at it is if im not making 6 bucks per guy a month I
        have bigger problems than my email. Im a nerd, 20 years ago
        dicking around with email servers would have been a blast. but
        now its like maintaining a battery powered inverter just so i
        can still use my corded drill. I can, it will work, its not
        that complicated, but its nonetheless a dumb waste of time.
        dealing with hosting email servers is a total waste of any
        resources unless your monetizing it. too large an attack vector
        On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:18 AM Chuck McCown via AF
        <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

            It is only for our own company email.  No customers on it.
            *From:* Tyson Burris
            *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 7:37 AM
            *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers

            Surgemail is exactly what I used.  Seemed to be a good
            product.

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            *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steven
            Kenney via AF
            *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 8:37 AM
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            Surgemail you could run 1000 customers on a raspberry pi!
            Not free though. Extremely granular configuration options.

            On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:16 AM Adam Moffett
            <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

                We used Icewarp since 2004 without issues.  At its
                peak we had thousandth of accounts on it, but now just
                a handful.

                Not free.  And they went to per user licensing so it’s
                not cost effective for hosting anymore, but it’s
                reasonable for internal email.

                Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

                
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                *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck
                McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
                *Sent:* Wednesday, March 8, 2023 6:05:45 PM
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                *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
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                We are having trouble with mailcow. Anything better
                out there.  It hangs all the time these days.

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