O365 handles SMTP relay for scanners and such really well, we just dealt
with it a bunch. authenticated IP. I dont scan to a flatbed because the
Edsel was before my time :-)




On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

> I prefer to have it in house for the 10-20 email addresses it serves for
> employees and other business email addresses.  It is free that way and we
> don’t have to worry about anything else.  But for some reason the server
> hangs and needs to get rebooted, usually about the same time each day.
>
> Google got difficult, especially for email chains and other things so we
> stopped using them some time ago.  For example, our scanner stopped being
> able to send emails due to something gmail did.
>
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 11:24 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
>
> How much is your time worth. The free internal server is costing you this.
> We are still using rackspace for subscriber mail and our office emails
> since its same domain and a pita to set up split routing for the mail. The
> cost of our mail is covered by the folks who have dropped service but
> wanted to keep their email, we actually make a tidy profit to cover any
> administrative stuff.
>
> for my business I use google. 6 bucks a month per user. The way I look at
> it is if im not making 6 bucks per guy a month I have bigger problems than
> my email. Im a nerd, 20 years ago dicking around with email servers would
> have been a blast. but now its like maintaining a battery powered inverter
> just so i can still use my corded drill. I can, it will work, its not that
> complicated, but its nonetheless a dumb waste of time.
>
> dealing with hosting email servers is a total waste of any resources
> unless your monetizing it. too large an attack vector
>
> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:18 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It is only for our own company email.  No customers on it.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Tyson Burris
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 7:37 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
>>
>>
>> Surgemail is exactly what I used.  Seemed to be a good product.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>
>> *Office #* *317-738-0320 *
>> *Cell/Direct #* *317-412-1540 *
>> *Online: **www.surfici.net*
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steven Kenney via AF
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 8:37 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Cc:* Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
>>
>>
>>
>> Surgemail you could run 1000 customers on a raspberry pi! Not free
>> though.  Extremely granular configuration options.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:16 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We used Icewarp since 2004 without issues.  At its peak we had thousandth
>> of accounts on it, but now just a handful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not free.  And they went to per user licensing so it’s not cost effective
>> for hosting anymore, but it’s reasonable for internal email.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF <
>> af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 8, 2023 6:05:45 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mail servers
>>
>>
>>
>> We are having trouble with mailcow.  Anything better out there.  It hangs
>> all the time these days.
>>
>>
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