The following is what I get when I send to anybody with a gmail email EXCEPTION 
YOU!  And you're right about the other stuff cause it gets mentioned in the 
failure notice.  t...@gmail.com  is my wife's address that failed, I didn't 
want that out there in a public forum.  mail.com mail to her gets bounced.  Her 
mail.com mail gets bounced if she sends to her gmail.com address.
So what is so special about you?

"This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of
its recipients. This is a permanent error.

The following address failed:

    x...@gmail.com:
        SMTP error from remote server for TEXT command, host: 
gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com (142.250.128.27) reason: 550-5.7.26 This message 
does not pass authentication checks (SPF and DKIM
both
550-5.7.26 do not pass). SPF check for [linuxmail.org] does not pass with
ip:
550-5.7.26 [74.208.4.200].To best protect our users from spam, the message
 has
550-5.7.26 been blocked. Please visit
550-5.7.26https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#authentication  fo
r more
550 5.7.26 information. i14-20020a02c60e000000b003ae7490551esi471413jan.13
1 - gsmtp


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Received: from [192.168.2.100] ([47.224.130.187]) by smtp.mail.com (mrgmxus003
 [74.208.5.15]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LnhN3-1qCUwz0lzT-00htTF for
 <x...@gmail.com>; Fri, 10 Mar 2023 19:17:02 +0100
Message-ID:<43c4761d-5035-4f71-ebe2-20373ce0b...@linuxmail.org>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 10:17:01 -0800"

On 3/10/23 09:57, Darin Steffl wrote:
I've never heard of mail.com <http://mail.com> but I can assure you Gmail doesn't block emails that are legitimate and follow proper SPF and DKIM configurations.

I receive all emails from people I'm expecting to receive. The only ones that end up in spam seem to "host" their own email and don't follow best practices for outgoing emails.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023, 11:33 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

    i got your spam emails this morning


    On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

        Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed

        *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs
        *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM
        *To:* af@af.afmug.com
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers

         All mail.com <http://mail.com> users cannot send you email. 
        How many other's are blocked as well?  Oblivion, must be sweet.

        On 3/9/23 20:14, Darin Steffl wrote:

            Gmail is the best. Been using them for our business since
            2012. Virtually no issues at all aside from a handful of
            short outages over the last 11 years.

            It's hands off, costs very little, and I've NEVER needed
            to contact them for support. We also use Google drive and
            their version of office apps in the cloud. We don't store
            any files locally at all. All business docs are at Google
            and they're safe there and they handle the backups.

            I don't see any advantage to hosting local email on your
            own server. It's not worth your time. My time is worth
            $550/hr roughly when looking at net profit so spending
            even one hour a year trying to manage or fix my own email
            server would cost me more than what I pay Google.

            We're grandfathered in and think we get 10 free users for
            gsuite and I pay to upgrade storage to 100gb on 2-3 users
            so we pay less than $60 a year to Google for everything.
            Dirt cheap and great peace mind.

            This is relating to our internal business use. For
            customer email, we never offered it and never will. Just
            recommend a free Gmail account and go live your best life
            not having to support email.

            On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 8:47 PM Steve Jones
            <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

                O365 handles SMTP relay for scanners and such really
                well, we just dealt with it a bunch. authenticated IP.
                I dont scan to a flatbed because the Edsel was before
                my time :-)

                On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM Chuck McCown via AF
                <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

                    I prefer to have it in house for the 10-20 email
                    addresses it serves for employees and other
                    business email addresses. It is free that way and
                    we don’t have to worry about anything else.  But
                    for some reason the server hangs and needs to get
                    rebooted, usually about the same time each day.

                    Google got difficult, especially for email chains
                    and other things so we stopped using them some
                    time ago.  For example, our scanner stopped being
                    able to send emails due to something gmail did.

                    *From:*Steve Jones

                    *Sent:*Thursday, March 9, 2023 11:24 AM

                    *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

                    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] mail servers

                    How much is your time worth. The free internal
                    server is costing you this. We are still using
                    rackspace for subscriber mail and our office
                    emails since its same domain and a pita to set up
                    split routing for the mail. The cost of our mail
                    is covered by the folks who have dropped service
                    but wanted to keep their email, we actually make a
                    tidy profit to cover any administrative stuff.

                    for my business I use google. 6 bucks a month per
                    user. The way I look at it is if im not making 6
                    bucks per guy a month I have bigger problems than
                    my email. Im a nerd, 20 years ago dicking around
                    with email servers would have been a blast. but
                    now its like maintaining a battery powered
                    inverter just so i can still use my corded drill.
                    I can, it will work, its not that complicated, but
                    its nonetheless a dumb waste of time.

                    dealing with hosting email servers is a total
                    waste of any resources unless your monetizing it.
                    too large an attack vector

                    On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:18 AM Chuck McCown via
                    AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

                        It is only for our own company email.  No
                        customers on it.

                        *From:*Tyson Burris

                        *Sent:*Thursday, March 9, 2023 7:37 AM

                        *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

                        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] mail servers

                        Surgemail is exactly what I used. Seemed to be
                        a good product.

                        *Tyson Burris, President**
                        **Internet Communications Inc.**
                        **739 Commerce Dr.**
                        **Franklin, IN 46131**
                        ***
                        *Office #**317-738-0320 *
                        *Cell/Direct #**317-412-1540 *
                        *Online: www.surfici.net <http://www.surfici.net>*

                        ICI

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                        *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf
                        Of *Steven Kenney via AF
                        *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 8:37 AM
                        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                        <af@af.afmug.com>
                        *Cc:* Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org>
                        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers

                        Surgemail you could run 1000 customers on a
                        raspberry pi! Not free though. Extremely
                        granular configuration options.

                        On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:16 AM Adam Moffett
                        <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

                            We used Icewarp since 2004 without
                            issues.  At its peak we had thousandth of
                            accounts on it, but now just a handful.

                            Not free.  And they went to per user
                            licensing so it’s not cost effective for
                            hosting anymore, but it’s reasonable for
                            internal email.

                            Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>

                            
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                            *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on
                            behalf of Chuck McCown via AF
                            <af@af.afmug.com>
                            *Sent:* Wednesday, March 8, 2023 6:05:45 PM
                            *To:* af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>
                            *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
                            *Subject:* [AFMUG] mail servers

                            We are having trouble with mailcow.
                            Anything better out there.  It hangs all
                            the time these days.

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