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On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:47 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> nope, this gmail account is standard free account.
> Im probably special cause all my communications get routed through the FBI
> servers for my online antics
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:33 PM Jan-GAMs <j.vank...@grnacres.net> wrote:
>
>> it was a test. Only the ones addressed to you went through. The others
>> tested, bounced. Your address is different somehow. You mentioned your
>> gmail is a paid-for account, the others that bounced were the free-gmail
>> type accounts one gets by logging into google. The emails were sent from
>> mail.com and from my own business accounts. The business ones went
>> through and the mail.com ones bounced except for the one sent to you. I
>> picked 4 gmail addresses and sent them out, all of the ones sent from the
>> mail.com got bounced except yours. What makes you so special?
>> On 3/10/23 09:14, Steve Jones wrote:
>>
>> i got your spam emails this morning
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs
>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM
>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All mail.com users cannot send you email. How many other's are
>>> blocked as well? Oblivion, must be sweet.
>>>
>>> On 3/9/23 20:14, Darin Steffl wrote:
>>>
>>> Gmail is the best. Been using them for our business since 2012.
>>> Virtually no issues at all aside from a handful of short outages over the
>>> last 11 years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's hands off, costs very little, and I've NEVER needed to contact them
>>> for support. We also use Google drive and their version of office apps in
>>> the cloud. We don't store any files locally at all. All business docs are
>>> at Google and they're safe there and they handle the backups.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't see any advantage to hosting local email on your own server.
>>> It's not worth your time. My time is worth $550/hr roughly when looking at
>>> net profit so spending even one hour a year trying to manage or fix my own
>>> email server would cost me more than what I pay Google.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We're grandfathered in and think we get 10 free users for gsuite and I
>>> pay to upgrade storage to 100gb on 2-3 users so we pay less than $60 a year
>>> to Google for everything. Dirt cheap and great peace mind.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is relating to our internal business use. For customer email, we
>>> never offered it and never will. Just recommend a free Gmail account and go
>>> live your best life not having to support email.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 8:47 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> O365 handles SMTP relay for scanners and such really well, we just dealt
>>> with it a bunch. authenticated IP. I dont scan to a flatbed because the
>>> Edsel was before my time :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I prefer to have it in house for the 10-20 email addresses it serves for
>>> employees and other business email addresses. It is free that way and we
>>> don’t have to worry about anything else. But for some reason the server
>>> hangs and needs to get rebooted, usually about the same time each day.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Google got difficult, especially for email chains and other things so we
>>> stopped using them some time ago. For example, our scanner stopped being
>>> able to send emails due to something gmail did.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Steve Jones
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 11:24 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How much is your time worth. The free internal server is costing you
>>> this. We are still using rackspace for subscriber mail and our office
>>> emails since its same domain and a pita to set up split routing for the
>>> mail. The cost of our mail is covered by the folks who have dropped service
>>> but wanted to keep their email, we actually make a tidy profit to cover any
>>> administrative stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> for my business I use google. 6 bucks a month per user. The way I look
>>> at it is if im not making 6 bucks per guy a month I have bigger problems
>>> than my email. Im a nerd, 20 years ago dicking around with email servers
>>> would have been a blast. but now its like maintaining a battery powered
>>> inverter just so i can still use my corded drill. I can, it will work, its
>>> not that complicated, but its nonetheless a dumb waste of time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> dealing with hosting email servers is a total waste of any resources
>>> unless your monetizing it. too large an attack vector
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:18 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It is only for our own company email. No customers on it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Tyson Burris
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 7:37 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Surgemail is exactly what I used. Seemed to be a good product.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Tyson Burris, President*
>>> *Internet Communications Inc.*
>>> *739 Commerce Dr.*
>>> *Franklin, IN 46131*
>>>
>>> *Office #* *317-738-0320 *
>>> *Cell/Direct #* *317-412-1540 *
>>> *Online: www.surfici.net <http://www.surfici.net>*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: ICI]
>>>
>>> *What can ICI do for you?*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
>>> Cameras - Fiber - Towers - Infrastructure.*
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steven Kenney via AF
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 8:37 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Cc:* Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Surgemail you could run 1000 customers on a raspberry pi! Not free
>>> though. Extremely granular configuration options.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:16 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> We used Icewarp since 2004 without issues. At its peak we had
>>> thousandth of accounts on it, but now just a handful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not free. And they went to per user licensing so it’s not cost
>>> effective for hosting anymore, but it’s reasonable for internal email.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF <
>>> af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 8, 2023 6:05:45 PM
>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] mail servers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are having trouble with mailcow. Anything better out there. It
>>> hangs all the time these days.
>>>
>>>
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