DKIM FTW!!
I absolutely hate that we use Sherweb for the rackspace hosted
exchange move. Sherweb doesnt do DKIM and now we see deliverability
issues, pisses me off when bad decisions are made. Sure, Rackspace may
have given all the PSTs to china, but at least they had solid DKIM
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:03 PM Darin Steffl
<darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
I've never heard of mail.com <http://mail.com> but I can assure
you Gmail doesn't block emails that are legitimate and follow
proper SPF and DKIM configurations.
I receive all emails from people I'm expecting to receive. The
only ones that end up in spam seem to "host" their own email and
don't follow best practices for outgoing emails.
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023, 11:33 AM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
i got your spam emails this morning
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs
*Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
All mail.com <http://mail.com> users cannot send you
email. How many other's are blocked as well? Oblivion,
must be sweet.
On 3/9/23 20:14, Darin Steffl wrote:
Gmail is the best. Been using them for our business
since 2012. Virtually no issues at all aside from a
handful of short outages over the last 11 years.
It's hands off, costs very little, and I've NEVER
needed to contact them for support. We also use Google
drive and their version of office apps in the cloud.
We don't store any files locally at all. All business
docs are at Google and they're safe there and they
handle the backups.
I don't see any advantage to hosting local email on
your own server. It's not worth your time. My time is
worth $550/hr roughly when looking at net profit so
spending even one hour a year trying to manage or fix
my own email server would cost me more than what I pay
Google.
We're grandfathered in and think we get 10 free users
for gsuite and I pay to upgrade storage to 100gb on
2-3 users so we pay less than $60 a year to Google for
everything. Dirt cheap and great peace mind.
This is relating to our internal business use. For
customer email, we never offered it and never will.
Just recommend a free Gmail account and go live your
best life not having to support email.
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 8:47 PM Steve Jones
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
O365 handles SMTP relay for scanners and such
really well, we just dealt with it a bunch.
authenticated IP. I dont scan to a flatbed because
the Edsel was before my time :-)
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 1:03 PM Chuck McCown via AF
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
I prefer to have it in house for the 10-20
email addresses it serves for employees and
other business email addresses. It is free
that way and we don’t have to worry about
anything else. But for some reason the server
hangs and needs to get rebooted, usually about
the same time each day.
Google got difficult, especially for email
chains and other things so we stopped using
them some time ago. For example, our scanner
stopped being able to send emails due to
something gmail did.
*From:*Steve Jones
*Sent:*Thursday, March 9, 2023 11:24 AM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
How much is your time worth. The free internal
server is costing you this. We are still using
rackspace for subscriber mail and our office
emails since its same domain and a pita to set
up split routing for the mail. The cost of our
mail is covered by the folks who have dropped
service but wanted to keep their email, we
actually make a tidy profit to cover any
administrative stuff.
for my business I use google. 6 bucks a month
per user. The way I look at it is if im not
making 6 bucks per guy a month I have bigger
problems than my email. Im a nerd, 20 years
ago dicking around with email servers would
have been a blast. but now its like
maintaining a battery powered inverter just so
i can still use my corded drill. I can, it
will work, its not that complicated, but its
nonetheless a dumb waste of time.
dealing with hosting email servers is a total
waste of any resources unless your monetizing
it. too large an attack vector
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 10:18 AM Chuck McCown
via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
It is only for our own company email. No
customers on it.
*From:*Tyson Burris
*Sent:*Thursday, March 9, 2023 7:37 AM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] mail servers
Surgemail is exactly what I used. Seemed
to be a good product.
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Surgemail you could run 1000 customers on
a raspberry pi! Not free though. Extremely
granular configuration options.
On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:16 AM Adam
Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
We used Icewarp since 2004 without
issues. At its peak we had thousandth
of accounts on it, but now just a handful.
Not free. And they went to per user
licensing so it’s not cost effective
for hosting anymore, but it’s
reasonable for internal email.
Get Outlook for iOS
<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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behalf of Chuck McCown via AF
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*Sent:* Wednesday, March 8, 2023
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*Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] mail servers
We are having trouble with mailcow.
Anything better out there. It hangs
all the time these days.
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