Cisco is like buying a car a piece at a time. Oh, you want the steering wheel? 
For all of Mikrotik’s - Mikrotik-ness, they come preloaded with all the things. 
I have a 3650 that’s sort of just working, but there was some weird update I 
needed for doing OSPF or some such, can’t recall. Also, Cisco threatens its own 
customers if ‘gasp’ you fall out of an active support contract, reinstatement 
fees equal to a year of college or something.

Juniper has been lovely, therefore took market from Cisco, hopefully they will 
stay relatively lovely, time will tell.

> On Mar 15, 2023, at 5:22 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
> <li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
> 
> And that's why we're switching to juniper.
> 
> Cisco has moved to a model where the software and hardware are licensed or 
> sold separately on most platforms and the software is subscription based.
> 
> Not sure what the situation is with the 3660, but some revert to very basic 
> functionality.   
> 
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 4:08 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com 
> <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:
> I just picked up a used Cisco 3650 switch off Ebay because I needed 48 
> POE ports that can do Vlans on the cheap.  When I go into the 
> 'Licensing' screen through the browser, it shows Authorization Status 
> 'EVAL MODE' with a 90 day countdown timer.  Will the switch stop working 
> after 90 days?  I haven't used anything Cisco in a long time.  3500 
> switches were the last thing I dabbled with.
> 
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