I think you are going to find Juniper heading in that direction as well.

Take a look at white box hardware like UfiSpace or EdgeCore and software like 
IPInfusion.   Long term I think you might be happier.

Mark

> On Mar 15, 2023, at 8:22 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
> <li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
> 
> And that's why we're switching to juniper.
> 
> Cisco has moved to a model where the software and hardware are licensed or 
> sold separately on most platforms and the software is subscription based.
> 
> Not sure what the situation is with the 3660, but some revert to very basic 
> functionality.   
> 
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 4:08 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com 
> <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com>> wrote:
>> I just picked up a used Cisco 3650 switch off Ebay because I needed 48 
>> POE ports that can do Vlans on the cheap.  When I go into the 
>> 'Licensing' screen through the browser, it shows Authorization Status 
>> 'EVAL MODE' with a 90 day countdown timer.  Will the switch stop working 
>> after 90 days?  I haven't used anything Cisco in a long time.  3500 
>> switches were the last thing I dabbled with.
>> 
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