Can't you find a key generator on a wareZ site it something or just grab a kid 
and have him hack it?   That's the American way no ?

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From: "Dev" <d...@logicalwebhost.com>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Cisco Licensing
Date: Wed, Mar 15, 2023 8:13 PM

I’ve seen firewall folks upselling security feeds as add-ons, but when it comes 
to paywalling critical exploitable vulnerabilies, that feels more like 
exploitation by deliberate omission if you ‘choose’ not to spend a nice 
vacation’s pay to get back on their support treadmill so bad guys don’t flatten 
your network and demand a ransom. Some ransoms are more legal than others. 
Better support too - maybe.On Mar 15, 2023, at 5:32 PM, Mark Radabaugh 
<m...@amplex.net> wrote:
I think you are going to find Juniper heading in that direction as well.
Take a look at white box hardware like UfiSpace or EdgeCore and software like 
IPInfusion.   Long term I think you might be happier.

MarkOn Mar 15, 2023, at 8:22 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
<li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
And that's why we're switching to juniper.
Cisco has moved to a model where the software and hardware are licensed or sold 
separately on most platforms and the software is subscription based.

Not sure what the situation is with the 3660, but some revert to very basic 
functionality.   
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, 4:08 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
I just picked up a used Cisco 3650 switch off Ebay because I needed 48 
POE ports that can do Vlans on the cheap.  When I go into the 
'Licensing' screen through the browser, it shows Authorization Status 
'EVAL MODE' with a 90 day countdown timer.  Will the switch stop working 
after 90 days?  I haven't used anything Cisco in a long time.  3500 
switches were the last thing I dabbled with.

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