Only fairly recently (2000) has the popular vote disagreed with the electoral vote. Also, technically, we're a republic not a democracy - although pragmatically speaking we're probably more of an oligarchy.
On Tuesday, September 30, 2014, Gino Villarini via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > I don’t think that’s a good argument for it. Candidates focus their > campaigns on “key” colleges, and win elections… Democracy is “the people” > how in earth you get voted to President without the majority of the votes! > Thats just sad > > > > Gino A. Villarini > President > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > www.aeronetpr.com > @aeronetpr > > > > From: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" < > af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> > Reply-To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" < > af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> > Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 at 6:01 AM > To: "af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" < > af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter > > The original thought was that the masses were ignorant and there needed > to be balance to that. 200 years and that hasn’t changed. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Gino > Villarini via Af > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:28 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter > > > > Wow, I still can’t wrap my head around how the electoral college > represents the people… > > > > Here in PR, its direct vote counts… that’s it! > > > > > > > > Gino A. Villarini > > President > > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > > www.aeronetpr.com > > @aeronetpr > > > > > > > > *From: *"af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" < > af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> > *Organization: *SPITwSPOTS > *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" > <af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> > *Date: *Tuesday, September 30, 2014 at 4:47 AM > *To: *"af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>" < > af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter > > > > I will believe that when we remove the electoral college. > > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com > > On 09/29/2014 09:43 PM, Glen Waldrop via Af wrote: > > Don't mistake soft words for a lack of conviction or naively believing > the system works. > > We run this country. We have to remind everyone of that. Those morons in > office work for us, not the other way around. Right now they work for > themselves with little to no oversight. > > Anyway, I've spoken my piece. Not getting any further into the political > rabbit hole. > > Night everyone. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:*That One Guy via Af <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> > > *To:*af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2014 12:30 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter > > > > you honestly think that? not a chance in hell pal. The only way that would > happen is before somebody closes the pen and phone window a single person > writes it into law. One man with a sheep might pull out if you put him in > the spotlight, but if you have a barn full of men each with a sheep, you > might convince a few to pull out, but never a majority, and we arent even > talking sheep at this point, we are talking fresh toothless calves. > > > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Glen Waldrop via Af <af@afmug.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> wrote: > > If we push it'll happen. > > Won't be easy. > > We'll have to convince them to vote on killing their golden goose. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:*George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> > > *To:*af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> > > *Sent:* Monday, September 29, 2014 9:26 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter > > > > I'm pretty skeptical of partisans and career politicians. Term limits.. > but it will never happen. Do a couple terms and then go home and work like > everyone else. No, instead they sit there for decades milking connections > to get rich and exempt themselves from the laws they force upon us, then > collect a pension after some scandal and/or their party disowns them and > they finally fade away. > > On 9/29/2014 7:27 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote: > > To what are you referring? I'm pretty skeptical of mainstream media FYI. > > On Monday, September 29, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af <af@afmug.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> wrote: > > Do you live under a bridge? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Jason McKemie via Af" <af@afmug.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> > *To: *af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> > *Sent: *Monday, September 29, 2014 7:23:11 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter > > Little bit of haterism going on here, he's one of the better ones IMO. > Does he not hang out upstate enough for you guys? > > On Monday, September 29, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af <af@afmug.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> wrote: > > +1 > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af" <af@afmug.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> > *To: *af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');> > *Sent: *Monday, September 29, 2014 5:07:43 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter > > Damn, why couldn't it be Durbin that slit his own throat. > > On 9/29/2014 5:04 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: > > im going with isis on this > > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Nate Burke via Af <af@afmug.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> wrote: > > This is only a couple miles from our office. They had all the local news > choppers up in the air over it on Friday. I was surprised that it didn't > garner more national coverage. I guess since it wasn't the terror threat > of the day, it didn't get any traction. Just a disgruntled employee. Even > the first reports said it was not a terrorist act. > > On 9/29/2014 4:36 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote: > > Oh yeah, > > I'm in Chicago for a few days. Flew in on thursday before this > happened. My wife flew in on Saturday and ended up with a nasty delay in > MSP since there were very very few flights flying into the affected area, > which basically includes both chicago airports, and the two airports up in > wisconsin. Thousands of flights cancelled over the last couple of days. > > That's the big news here. > > -forrest > > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af <af@afmug.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> wrote: > > Anyone see this? > > > http://posttrib.suntimes.com/30167722-537/flight-delays-to-continue-after-arson.html#.VCnNuOeXtGE > > > http://www.metafilter.com/143174/ATCSCC-ADVZY-020-DCC-ZAU-09-26-2014-ZAU-GROUND-STOP > > > > On Friday, ATCSCC Advisory 20 of 26-Sep-2014 went out. When operators, > controllers and airport managers saw the title, a gasp of disbelief was > heard. The problem was simple enough to state in three words, and complex > enough to cancel thousand of flights and cost hundred of millions of > dollars: ZAU ATC ZERO > <http://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_otherdis.jsp?advn=20&adv_date=09262014&facId=DCC/ZAU&title=ZAU+GROUND+STOP&titleDate=09/26/14> > . > > ZAU > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Air_Route_Traffic_Control_Center> > is the call sign of the Chicago Air Rout Traffic Control Center (ARTCC), > which covers <http://www.fly.faa.gov/Information/west/zau/zau.htm> > northern Illinois and Indiana, southern Wisconsin, western Iowa, and south > eastern Michigan. There are two "sides" at an ARTCC. ZAU-LO handed traffic > destined for airports in the covered area, ZAU-HI handled traffic > overflying. Both were amongst the busiest in the country. ZAU-HI was busy > with traffic from the east to west, as well as European traffic heading to > Houston and Dallas-FW, ZAU-LO had to feed in traffic from airports like > GYY <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary/Chicago_International_Airport>, MKE > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Mitchell_International_Airport>, RFD > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Rockford_International_Airport>, PIA > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Wayne_A._Downing_Peoria_International_Airport>, > and the two busiest airports in the area; Chicago Midway International > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Midway_International_Airport> and O'Hare > International > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Hare_International_Airport>, one of the > busiest airports in the world. > > On Friday morning, Brian Howard, a contract employee of the FAA and > holding full credentials to the ZAU datacenters, set a fire in the telecom > room, destroying 23 of the 29 > <http://posttrib.suntimes.com/30167722-537/flight-delays-to-continue-after-arson.html> > rack and disconnecting all the controller stations from the associated > radars and radio transmitters needed to watch and guide traffic through the > busy sector. As the consoles dropped offline, the ZAU duty manager had no > choice -- they called ZZZ, the FAA command center > <http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/usmap.jsp> and reported ATC ZERO -- no > controllers available, control center offline. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the > parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you > can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not > use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the > parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you > can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not > use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 > > >
