I stand corrected, apparently it has actually happened to 4 candidates, the most recent being in 2000.
On Tuesday, September 30, 2014, Jason McKemie via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > Only fairly recently (2000) has the popular vote disagreed with the > electoral vote. Also, technically, we're a republic not a democracy - > although pragmatically speaking we're probably more of an oligarchy. > > On Tuesday, September 30, 2014, Gino Villarini via Af <af@afmug.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>> wrote: > >> I don’t think that’s a good argument for it. Candidates focus their >> campaigns on “key” colleges, and win elections… Democracy is “the people” >> how in earth you get voted to President without the majority of the votes! >> Thats just sad >> >> >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> President >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> www.aeronetpr.com >> @aeronetpr >> >> >> >> From: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 at 6:01 AM >> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter >> >> The original thought was that the masses were ignorant and there >> needed to be balance to that. 200 years and that hasn’t changed. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini >> via Af >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:28 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter >> >> >> >> Wow, I still can’t wrap my head around how the electoral college >> represents the people… >> >> >> >> Here in PR, its direct vote counts… that’s it! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> >> President >> >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> >> www.aeronetpr.com >> >> @aeronetpr >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> *Organization: *SPITwSPOTS >> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> *Date: *Tuesday, September 30, 2014 at 4:47 AM >> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter >> >> >> >> I will believe that when we remove the electoral college. >> >> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer >> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com >> >> On 09/29/2014 09:43 PM, Glen Waldrop via Af wrote: >> >> Don't mistake soft words for a lack of conviction or naively believing >> the system works. >> >> We run this country. We have to remind everyone of that. Those morons in >> office work for us, not the other way around. Right now they work for >> themselves with little to no oversight. >> >> Anyway, I've spoken my piece. Not getting any further into the political >> rabbit hole. >> >> Night everyone. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:*That One Guy via Af >> >> *To:*af@afmug.com >> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 30, 2014 12:30 AM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter >> >> >> >> you honestly think that? not a chance in hell pal. The only way that >> would happen is before somebody closes the pen and phone window a single >> person writes it into law. One man with a sheep might pull out if you put >> him in the spotlight, but if you have a barn full of men each with a sheep, >> you might convince a few to pull out, but never a majority, and we arent >> even talking sheep at this point, we are talking fresh toothless calves. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Glen Waldrop via Af <af@afmug.com> >> wrote: >> >> If we push it'll happen. >> >> Won't be easy. >> >> We'll have to convince them to vote on killing their golden goose. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:*George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af >> >> *To:*af@afmug.com >> >> *Sent:* Monday, September 29, 2014 9:26 PM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter >> >> >> >> I'm pretty skeptical of partisans and career politicians. Term limits.. >> but it will never happen. Do a couple terms and then go home and work like >> everyone else. No, instead they sit there for decades milking connections >> to get rich and exempt themselves from the laws they force upon us, then >> collect a pension after some scandal and/or their party disowns them and >> they finally fade away. >> >> On 9/29/2014 7:27 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote: >> >> To what are you referring? I'm pretty skeptical of mainstream media FYI. >> >> On Monday, September 29, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >> >> Do you live under a bridge? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Jason McKemie via Af" <af@afmug.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Monday, September 29, 2014 7:23:11 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter >> >> Little bit of haterism going on here, he's one of the better ones IMO. >> Does he not hang out upstate enough for you guys? >> >> On Monday, September 29, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >> >> +1 >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af" <af@afmug.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Monday, September 29, 2014 5:07:43 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter >> >> Damn, why couldn't it be Durbin that slit his own throat. >> >> On 9/29/2014 5:04 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: >> >> im going with isis on this >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Nate Burke via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >> >> This is only a couple miles from our office. They had all the local news >> choppers up in the air over it on Friday. I was surprised that it didn't >> garner more national coverage. I guess since it wasn't the terror threat >> of the day, it didn't get any traction. Just a disgruntled employee. Even >> the first reports said it was not a terrorist act. >> >> On 9/29/2014 4:36 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote: >> >> Oh yeah, >> >> I'm in Chicago for a few days. Flew in on thursday before this >> happened. My wife flew in on Saturday and ended up with a nasty delay in >> MSP since there were very very few flights flying into the affected area, >> which basically includes both chicago airports, and the two airports up in >> wisconsin. Thousands of flights cancelled over the last couple of days. >> >> That's the big news here. >> >> -forrest >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >> >> Anyone see this? >> >> >> http://posttrib.suntimes.com/30167722-537/flight-delays-to-continue-after-arson.html#.VCnNuOeXtGE >> >> >> http://www.metafilter.com/143174/ATCSCC-ADVZY-020-DCC-ZAU-09-26-2014-ZAU-GROUND-STOP >> >> >> >> On Friday, ATCSCC Advisory 20 of 26-Sep-2014 went out. When operators, >> controllers and airport managers saw the title, a gasp of disbelief was >> heard. The problem was simple enough to state in three words, and complex >> enough to cancel thousand of flights and cost hundred of millions of >> dollars: ZAU ATC ZERO >> <http://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_otherdis.jsp?advn=20&adv_date=09262014&facId=DCC/ZAU&title=ZAU+GROUND+STOP&titleDate=09/26/14> >> . >> >> ZAU >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Air_Route_Traffic_Control_Center> >> is the call sign of the Chicago Air Rout Traffic Control Center (ARTCC), >> which covers <http://www.fly.faa.gov/Information/west/zau/zau.htm> >> northern Illinois and Indiana, southern Wisconsin, western Iowa, and south >> eastern Michigan. There are two "sides" at an ARTCC. ZAU-LO handed traffic >> destined for airports in the covered area, ZAU-HI handled traffic >> overflying. Both were amongst the busiest in the country. ZAU-HI was busy >> with traffic from the east to west, as well as European traffic heading to >> Houston and Dallas-FW, ZAU-LO had to feed in traffic from airports like >> GYY <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary/Chicago_International_Airport>, >> MKE <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Mitchell_International_Airport>, >> RFD <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Rockford_International_Airport>, >> PIA >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Wayne_A._Downing_Peoria_International_Airport>, >> and the two busiest airports in the area; Chicago Midway International >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Midway_International_Airport> and >> O'Hare >> International >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Hare_International_Airport>, one of >> the busiest airports in the world. >> >> On Friday morning, Brian Howard, a contract employee of the FAA and >> holding full credentials to the ZAU datacenters, set a fire in the telecom >> room, destroying 23 of the 29 >> <http://posttrib.suntimes.com/30167722-537/flight-delays-to-continue-after-arson.html> >> rack and disconnecting all the controller stations from the associated >> radars and radio transmitters needed to watch and guide traffic through the >> busy sector. As the consoles dropped offline, the ZAU duty manager had no >> choice -- they called ZZZ, the FAA command center >> <http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/usmap.jsp> and reported ATC ZERO -- no >> controllers available, control center offline. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the >> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not >> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the >> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not >> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >> >> >> >
