It would be much better if instead of payroll, all employers just kicked all revenue into the kitty and the government could hand it out based on each persons need
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Tyler Treat via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > .this. > > ___________________________ > Mangled by my iPhone. > ___________________________ > > Tyler Treat > Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. > > tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com > ___________________________ > > > On Sep 29, 2014, at 9:27 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af < > af@afmug.com> wrote: > > I'm pretty skeptical of partisans and career politicians. Term limits.. > but it will never happen. Do a couple terms and then go home and work like > everyone else. No, instead they sit there for decades milking connections > to get rich and exempt themselves from the laws they force upon us, then > collect a pension after some scandal and/or their party disowns them and > they finally fade away. > > On 9/29/2014 7:27 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote: > > To what are you referring? I'm pretty skeptical of mainstream media FYI. > > On Monday, September 29, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: > >> Do you live under a bridge? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Jason McKemie via Af" <af@afmug.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Monday, September 29, 2014 7:23:11 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter >> >> Little bit of haterism going on here, he's one of the better ones IMO. >> Does he not hang out upstate enough for you guys? >> >> On Monday, September 29, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af" <af@afmug.com> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Monday, September 29, 2014 5:07:43 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter >>> >>> Damn, why couldn't it be Durbin that slit his own throat. >>> >>> On 9/29/2014 5:04 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: >>> >>> im going with isis on this >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Nate Burke via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote: >>> >>>> This is only a couple miles from our office. They had all the local >>>> news choppers up in the air over it on Friday. I was surprised that it >>>> didn't garner more national coverage. I guess since it wasn't the terror >>>> threat of the day, it didn't get any traction. Just a disgruntled >>>> employee. Even the first reports said it was not a terrorist act. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/29/2014 4:36 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote: >>>> >>>> Oh yeah, >>>> >>>> I'm in Chicago for a few days. Flew in on thursday before this >>>> happened. My wife flew in on Saturday and ended up with a nasty delay in >>>> MSP since there were very very few flights flying into the affected area, >>>> which basically includes both chicago airports, and the two airports up in >>>> wisconsin. Thousands of flights cancelled over the last couple of days. >>>> >>>> That's the big news here. >>>> >>>> -forrest >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af <af@afmug.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Anyone see this? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://posttrib.suntimes.com/30167722-537/flight-delays-to-continue-after-arson.html#.VCnNuOeXtGE >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.metafilter.com/143174/ATCSCC-ADVZY-020-DCC-ZAU-09-26-2014-ZAU-GROUND-STOP >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, ATCSCC Advisory 20 of 26-Sep-2014 went out. When operators, >>>>> controllers and airport managers saw the title, a gasp of disbelief was >>>>> heard. The problem was simple enough to state in three words, and complex >>>>> enough to cancel thousand of flights and cost hundred of millions of >>>>> dollars: ZAU ATC ZERO >>>>> <http://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_otherdis.jsp?advn=20&adv_date=09262014&facId=DCC/ZAU&title=ZAU+GROUND+STOP&titleDate=09/26/14> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> ZAU >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Air_Route_Traffic_Control_Center> >>>>> is the call sign of the Chicago Air Rout Traffic Control Center (ARTCC), >>>>> which covers <http://www.fly.faa.gov/Information/west/zau/zau.htm> >>>>> northern Illinois and Indiana, southern Wisconsin, western Iowa, and south >>>>> eastern Michigan. There are two "sides" at an ARTCC. ZAU-LO handed traffic >>>>> destined for airports in the covered area, ZAU-HI handled traffic >>>>> overflying. Both were amongst the busiest in the country. ZAU-HI was busy >>>>> with traffic from the east to west, as well as European traffic heading to >>>>> Houston and Dallas-FW, ZAU-LO had to feed in traffic from airports like >>>>> GYY <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary/Chicago_International_Airport>, >>>>> MKE >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Mitchell_International_Airport>, >>>>> RFD >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Rockford_International_Airport>, >>>>> PIA >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Wayne_A._Downing_Peoria_International_Airport>, >>>>> and the two busiest airports in the area; Chicago Midway International >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Midway_International_Airport> >>>>> and O'Hare International >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Hare_International_Airport>, one of >>>>> the busiest airports in the world. >>>>> >>>>> On Friday morning, Brian Howard, a contract employee of the FAA and >>>>> holding full credentials to the ZAU datacenters, set a fire in the telecom >>>>> room, destroying 23 of the 29 >>>>> <http://posttrib.suntimes.com/30167722-537/flight-delays-to-continue-after-arson.html> >>>>> rack and disconnecting all the controller stations from the associated >>>>> radars and radio transmitters needed to watch and guide traffic through >>>>> the >>>>> busy sector. As the consoles dropped offline, the ZAU duty manager had no >>>>> choice -- they called ZZZ, the FAA command center >>>>> <http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/usmap.jsp> and reported ATC ZERO -- no >>>>> controllers available, control center offline. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the >>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you >>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not >>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
