I don’t think that’s a good argument for it. Candidates focus their campaigns on “key” colleges, and win elections… Democracy is “the people” how in earth you get voted to President without the majority of the votes! Thats just sad
Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 at 6:01 AM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter The original thought was that the masses were ignorant and there needed to be balance to that. 200 years and that hasn’t changed. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini via Af Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 2:28 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter Wow, I still can’t wrap my head around how the electoral college represents the people… Here in PR, its direct vote counts… that’s it! Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Organization: SPITwSPOTS Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 at 4:47 AM To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter I will believe that when we remove the electoral college. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com> On 09/29/2014 09:43 PM, Glen Waldrop via Af wrote: Don't mistake soft words for a lack of conviction or naively believing the system works. We run this country. We have to remind everyone of that. Those morons in office work for us, not the other way around. Right now they work for themselves with little to no oversight. Anyway, I've spoken my piece. Not getting any further into the political rabbit hole. Night everyone. ----- Original Message ----- From:That One Guy via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com> To:af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter you honestly think that? not a chance in hell pal. The only way that would happen is before somebody closes the pen and phone window a single person writes it into law. One man with a sheep might pull out if you put him in the spotlight, but if you have a barn full of men each with a sheep, you might convince a few to pull out, but never a majority, and we arent even talking sheep at this point, we are talking fresh toothless calves. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Glen Waldrop via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: If we push it'll happen. Won't be easy. We'll have to convince them to vote on killing their golden goose. ----- Original Message ----- From:George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af<mailto:af@afmug.com> To:af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter I'm pretty skeptical of partisans and career politicians. Term limits.. but it will never happen. Do a couple terms and then go home and work like everyone else. No, instead they sit there for decades milking connections to get rich and exempt themselves from the laws they force upon us, then collect a pension after some scandal and/or their party disowns them and they finally fade away. On 9/29/2014 7:27 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote: To what are you referring? I'm pretty skeptical of mainstream media FYI. On Monday, September 29, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Do you live under a bridge? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ________________________________ From: "Jason McKemie via Af" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 7:23:11 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter Little bit of haterism going on here, he's one of the better ones IMO. Does he not hang out upstate enough for you guys? On Monday, September 29, 2014, Mike Hammett via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: +1 ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ________________________________ From: "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 5:07:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Arson attack on FAA datacenter Damn, why couldn't it be Durbin that slit his own throat. On 9/29/2014 5:04 PM, That One Guy via Af wrote: im going with isis on this On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Nate Burke via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: This is only a couple miles from our office. They had all the local news choppers up in the air over it on Friday. I was surprised that it didn't garner more national coverage. I guess since it wasn't the terror threat of the day, it didn't get any traction. Just a disgruntled employee. Even the first reports said it was not a terrorist act. On 9/29/2014 4:36 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote: Oh yeah, I'm in Chicago for a few days. Flew in on thursday before this happened. My wife flew in on Saturday and ended up with a nasty delay in MSP since there were very very few flights flying into the affected area, which basically includes both chicago airports, and the two airports up in wisconsin. Thousands of flights cancelled over the last couple of days. That's the big news here. -forrest On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> wrote: Anyone see this? http://posttrib.suntimes.com/30167722-537/flight-delays-to-continue-after-arson.html#.VCnNuOeXtGE http://www.metafilter.com/143174/ATCSCC-ADVZY-020-DCC-ZAU-09-26-2014-ZAU-GROUND-STOP On Friday, ATCSCC Advisory 20 of 26-Sep-2014 went out. When operators, controllers and airport managers saw the title, a gasp of disbelief was heard. The problem was simple enough to state in three words, and complex enough to cancel thousand of flights and cost hundred of millions of dollars: ZAU ATC ZERO<http://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_otherdis.jsp?advn=20&adv_date=09262014&facId=DCC/ZAU&title=ZAU+GROUND+STOP&titleDate=09/26/14>. ZAU<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Air_Route_Traffic_Control_Center> is the call sign of the Chicago Air Rout Traffic Control Center (ARTCC), which covers<http://www.fly.faa.gov/Information/west/zau/zau.htm> northern Illinois and Indiana, southern Wisconsin, western Iowa, and south eastern Michigan. There are two "sides" at an ARTCC. ZAU-LO handed traffic destined for airports in the covered area, ZAU-HI handled traffic overflying. Both were amongst the busiest in the country. ZAU-HI was busy with traffic from the east to west, as well as European traffic heading to Houston and Dallas-FW, ZAU-LO had to feed in traffic from airports like GYY<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary/Chicago_International_Airport>, MKE<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Mitchell_International_Airport>, RFD<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Rockford_International_Airport>, PIA<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Wayne_A._Downing_Peoria_International_Airport>, and the two busiest airports in the area; Chicago Midway International<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Midway_International_Airport> and O'Hare International<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Hare_International_Airport>, one of the busiest airports in the world. On Friday morning, Brian Howard, a contract employee of the FAA and holding full credentials to the ZAU datacenters, set a fire in the telecom room, destroying 23 of the 29<http://posttrib.suntimes.com/30167722-537/flight-delays-to-continue-after-arson.html> rack and disconnecting all the controller stations from the associated radars and radio transmitters needed to watch and guide traffic through the busy sector. As the consoles dropped offline, the ZAU duty manager had no choice -- they called ZZZ, the FAA command center<http://www.fly.faa.gov/flyfaa/usmap.jsp> and reported ATC ZERO -- no controllers available, control center offline. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
