So if as a tenant, I have a toilet professionally installed in the living
room, that wouldn't be damage?

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Brett A Mansfield <
br...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:

> Tell that to Comcast or century link.
>
> I as a landlord and a WISP owner am conflicted on this. I don't think the
> ISP should be held responsible unless they did a shady job. The renter
> needs to know the rules of the place. The ISP should always ask if they are
> the owner of the place. If the renter says they are the owner, wether they
> signed something or not, then the renter is responsible.
>
> I disagree with you about what is damage. If it's done correctly it's not
> damage. Otherwise when they install any piping for the bathrooms or kitchen
> would be damage.
>
> If it's done professionally then everything is sealed and no warranty is
> voided...unless you're dealing with a shady builder.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Mar 17, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote:
>
> Installing a J-mount (drilling holes in a roof) and cable penetration
> (drilling a hole in the side of the house) is DEFINITELY damage to the
> property. Any warranty on the roof becomes null and void unless a certified
> roofer does the work and certifies the install. Drilling a hole through the
> siding and house is also damage.
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 3/17/2015 11:28 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> I think we differ on what constitutes damage.
>
> Installing a J-mount and a cable penetration, no.
> Not sealing the above properly and water or critters intrude upon the
> structure, yes.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> <t...@ida.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 17, 2015 12:26:21 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Angry landlord over Roof mount antenna
>
> Tenants do not have the right to damage my property, regardless of their
> rights and due process.
>
> Travis
>
> On 3/17/2015 11:19 AM, John Woodfield wrote:
>
> Many landlords with that attitude end up criminally charged. There is such
> a thing as tenant rights and due process.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 17, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>   It sounds right to me.  He owns the land and property.  Owner is king
> of his castle.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 17, 2015 1:13 PM, "John Woodfield" <john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz> wrote:
>
>> I'm calling BS on this.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Mar 17, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > You still have to work it out with the actual owner, regardless of what
>> the tenant told you or even signed.
>> >
>> > Travis
>> >
>> >> On 3/17/2015 10:16 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>> >>> On 3/17/15 9:11, Travis Johnson wrote:
>> >>> I would talk to the tenant and try and resolve things, but the ISP is
>> >>> who did the actual damage to the property, without permission. Yes,
>> they
>> >>> "assumed" they had permission, but without a signed contract from the
>> >>> legal owner of the property, the ISP does not have permission to cause
>> >>> damage to the property.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> What do you do if your tenants misrepresent themselves as the owner
>> with authority?
>> >>
>> >> ~Seth
>> >
>>
>
>
>
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