or the power company or... 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

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From: "Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 12:49:34 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Angry landlord over Roof mount antenna 


Tell that to Comcast or century link. 


I as a landlord and a WISP owner am conflicted on this. I don't think the ISP 
should be held responsible unless they did a shady job. The renter needs to 
know the rules of the place. The ISP should always ask if they are the owner of 
the place. If the renter says they are the owner, wether they signed something 
or not, then the renter is responsible. 


I disagree with you about what is damage. If it's done correctly it's not 
damage. Otherwise when they install any piping for the bathrooms or kitchen 
would be damage. 


If it's done professionally then everything is sealed and no warranty is 
voided...unless you're dealing with a shady builder. 

Thank you, 
Brett A Mansfield 

On Mar 17, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Travis Johnson < [email protected] > wrote: 




Installing a J-mount (drilling holes in a roof) and cable penetration (drilling 
a hole in the side of the house) is DEFINITELY damage to the property. Any 
warranty on the roof becomes null and void unless a certified roofer does the 
work and certifies the install. Drilling a hole through the siding and house is 
also damage. 

Travis 



On 3/17/2015 11:28 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 

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I think we differ on what constitutes damage. 

Installing a J-mount and a cable penetration, no. 
Not sealing the above properly and water or critters intrude upon the 
structure, yes. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Travis Johnson" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 12:26:21 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Angry landlord over Roof mount antenna 

Tenants do not have the right to damage my property, regardless of their rights 
and due process. 

Travis 


On 3/17/2015 11:19 AM, John Woodfield wrote: 

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Many landlords with that attitude end up criminally charged. There is such a 
thing as tenant rights and due process. 

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On Mar 17, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Josh Luthman < [email protected] > 
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It sounds right to me. He owns the land and property. Owner is king of his 
castle. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Mar 17, 2015 1:13 PM, "John Woodfield" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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I'm calling BS on this. 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On Mar 17, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Travis Johnson < [email protected] > wrote: 
> 
> You still have to work it out with the actual owner, regardless of what the 
> tenant told you or even signed. 
> 
> Travis 
> 
>> On 3/17/2015 10:16 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: 
>>> On 3/17/15 9:11, Travis Johnson wrote: 
>>> I would talk to the tenant and try and resolve things, but the ISP is 
>>> who did the actual damage to the property, without permission. Yes, they 
>>> "assumed" they had permission, but without a signed contract from the 
>>> legal owner of the property, the ISP does not have permission to cause 
>>> damage to the property. 
>> 
>> 
>> What do you do if your tenants misrepresent themselves as the owner with 
>> authority? 
>> 
>> ~Seth 
> 



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