Most owners of residential rental property worry more about the tenant using it 
as a meth lab or grow house or “party house”.

You folks must live in a very upscale neighborhood if a J-pipe foot on the roof 
and a nicely caulked up 1/4 inch hole in the siding is a huge damage problem 
requiring that roofers and siding contractors be called to install all new 
stuff.

Maybe this is why rental areas of Kansas City got passed over as Google Fiber 
fiberhoods.  Ooooooh, we need to drill a hole in the wall.  Oh, the humanity!


From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 12:55 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Angry landlord over Roof mount antenna

I'm pretty any changes you make to someone else's property could be considered 
damage unless it's normal wear and tear. The fact is, it's going to cost the 
landlord money if he wants it put back to the original condition, it might not 
be reasonable in most people opinion to put it back to the original condition, 
but I see no reason he wouldn't have the right it... who is responsible is 
another matter, but I don't think you can really argue there was no damage.


On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:

  As I said, I think we differ.




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  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



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  From: "Travis Johnson" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 12:37:38 PM 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Angry landlord over Roof mount antenna

  Installing a J-mount (drilling holes in a roof) and cable penetration 
(drilling a hole in the side of the house) is DEFINITELY damage to the 
property. Any warranty on the roof becomes null and void unless a certified 
roofer does the work and certifies the install. Drilling a hole through the 
siding and house is also damage.

  Travis



  On 3/17/2015 11:28 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

    I think we differ on what constitutes damage.

    Installing a J-mount and a cable penetration, no.
    Not sealing the above properly and water or critters intrude upon the 
structure, yes.




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    Mike Hammett
    Intelligent Computing Solutions
    http://www.ics-il.com



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    From: "Travis Johnson" mailto:[email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 12:26:21 PM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Angry landlord over Roof mount antenna

    Tenants do not have the right to damage my property, regardless of their 
rights and due process.

    Travis


    On 3/17/2015 11:19 AM, John Woodfield wrote:

      Many landlords with that attitude end up criminally charged. There is 
such a thing as tenant rights and due process. 

      Sent from my iPhone

      On Mar 17, 2015, at 1:15 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
wrote:


        It sounds right to me.  He owns the land and property.  Owner is king 
of his castle.

        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373

        On Mar 17, 2015 1:13 PM, "John Woodfield" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          I'm calling BS on this.

          Sent from my iPhone

          > On Mar 17, 2015, at 12:43 PM, Travis Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
          >
          > You still have to work it out with the actual owner, regardless of 
what the tenant told you or even signed.
          >
          > Travis
          >
          >> On 3/17/2015 10:16 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
          >>> On 3/17/15 9:11, Travis Johnson wrote:
          >>> I would talk to the tenant and try and resolve things, but the 
ISP is
          >>> who did the actual damage to the property, without permission. 
Yes, they
          >>> "assumed" they had permission, but without a signed contract from 
the
          >>> legal owner of the property, the ISP does not have permission to 
cause
          >>> damage to the property.
          >>
          >>
          >> What do you do if your tenants misrepresent themselves as the 
owner with authority?
          >>
          >> ~Seth
          >







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