You're not.

Explain to me how single player GPS sync helps in a mixed environment of various vendors when your equipment is in the beamwidth many other competitors and your radios suck in the presence of adjacent channel noise? It doesn't. It doesn't at all. Notch filters would help those radios in that scenario, but it's not really practical unless you just like to climb towers for kicks.

Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 04/18/2015 08:19 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
You may not need the benefits, but it doesn't mean I'm not correct.



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*From: *"Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
*To: *"Animal Farm" <[email protected]>
*Sent: *Saturday, April 18, 2015 11:15:53 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

Nope. Having great success with no sync using Ubiquiti radios. Now with new channels even better. Just like Mesh. Not ready for prime time on my TV...

Jaime Solorza

On Apr 18, 2015 10:11 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    The more competitors, the *MORE* you need sync.



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    *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, "Mathew Howard"
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    *Sent: *Saturday, April 18, 2015 8:51:00 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..

    AF absolutely has sync?

    As far as AirMaxAC, sure, no sync.. At this time.

    In the end though, there are a lot of operators that simply don't
    care about sync.

    Eventually in many markets it will come to a point when you simply
    run out of clean frequency, ie: using one or two or three per
    tower won't cut it, due to competitors, cell offload, etc. In that
    scenario where GPS sync is virtually useless (because you're
    picking the best freq per direction), its pretty obvious that
    there are a few radios that would currently excel in that scenario.

    There are many places where we are, for instance, where multiple
    competitors, city and state links, federal, etc have towers less
    than a mile from us. Having the ability to "shrug off" that
    adjacent and co channel noise is critical for us.

    On April 18, 2015 4:52:38 PM AKDT, Mathew Howard
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        This test ignores a few kind of important details... the UBNT
        and Mikrotik AC radios have no ability to sync, which gives
        them a significant disadvantage. also, the Mimosa radios are
        (theoretically) capable of higher throughput since they are
        the only ones with the ability to use two 80mhz channels...
        granted, it's pretty rare that is actually possible in the
        real world, but if you had synced Mimosas everywhere, it could
        be done. He's also using a $499 ePMP radio, when he should be
        using a $200 Force110 PTP.

        That said, the conclusion the the AF5x is the best is probably
        right :P

        On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            If your criterion is performance in the presence of a
            signal on a different frequency 30 dB stronger than the
            desired signal, this analysis is relevant.  Also, this
seems to be the scenario airPrism is designed to address. But how often would this occur? Even if the interference
            is from another non-synced transmitter on the same tower,
            you’d think directional antennas would knock the
            interfering signal down to less than 1000 times the
            desired signal.
            I guess this could be realistic if you have a point to
            point link in the same band as a sector, so that a giant
            dish at the other end is pointed right at your sector.
            *From:* Josh Reynolds <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2015 5:34 PM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; Seth Mattinen
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Very interesting post..
            Horseshit, read the article. Did you miss the portion
            where Jim said "it's the exact same chip that's in the RM5"?

            I would have liked to have seen the RM5 in this test as a
            baseline, but ignoring the results simply because it's N
            tech in the EPMP is silly. Not only does the throughput
            drop, but the LEVEL it degrades at is only "bested" by the
            B5C in a few of the tests. N or not, that's a very poor
            result.

            I would love to see other tests posted on this from other
            people, its always nice to have multiple sources to remove
            any potential level of bias.

            Jim did an excellent job on this and should be commended.

            On April 18, 2015 2:26:50 PM AKDT, Seth Mattinen
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                On 4/18/15 2:49 PM, Peter Kranz wrote:

                    Very interesting shootout comparing AF5X, AC-Lite,
                    AC PTP, EPMP-1000, B5c and RB922
                    
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airMAX-Stories/Radio-Shootout-Pt-2-let-s-try-a-whole-bunch-of-them/cns-p/1232309




                Dude didn't seem to catch that the ePMP is an N radio and 
dismisses it
                as worst of the worst. Looks to me like it would probably hold 
up
                comparably to its AC counterparts if you take that into 
consideration.

                ~Seth


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