Yeah, that is why I mentioned that it was the internal site monitor
temperature.  Forrest knows almost exactly how far off it is from the
ambient temperature.

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> That probe is a lot warmer than the enclosure.
>
> Josh Luthman
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> On May 18, 2015 10:23 PM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The coldest that I saw INSIDE our enclosures this year (accordint to
>> SiteMonitor internal temperature) was 0-C (32-F).  Last year was much
>> colder but back then I was using the APC for temperature and backup, and
>> that graph data has all been deleted.  I can't say for sure if the
>> temperature in the box was lower, but I doubt it would go too far below 32
>> with all the equipment and batteries in the boxes.
>>
>> On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Wouldn't the simple answer be to offer the device and SD card as
>>> separate items?  Then on your site you say, "If you want to have storage
>>> with the same industrial temperature range as the rest of my product line
>>> then buy this card, or supply your own at your own risk."
>>>
>>> Everybody selling fiber to the radio with an SFP slot does it that way.
>>> I always buy their SFP module.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/18/2015 10:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
>>>
>>>   What is the lowest temperature that each of you would normally expect
>>> to see in your enclosures?
>>>
>>> The reason I'm asking is that I'm in the process of developing up a few
>>> new products.
>>>
>>>  To date, all of the packetflux products are designed with components
>>> rated -40 to +85C (I.E way cold to way hot).    I'd like to retain this
>>> rating, but I'm running into a minor snag:
>>>
>>>  For storage, I'm planning on integrating a SD card (probably microSD)
>>> in a socket.   I only need a GB or so, and SD card memory is inexpensive at
>>> that range.
>>>
>>>  Unfortunately, all the reasonably priced SD cards are only rated down
>>> to about -25C or -13F. which are about ~$3 in qty.   "Industrial
>>> temperature range" ones which are good down to -40C/F are available but
>>> they add at least $30 to the cost for non-name brand, and even more for
>>> known brands.  When you're talking about a $100 end-user price, a $30 1GB
>>> SD card seems excessive - and probably isn't even possible if I want to
>>> meet the $100 price with some margin.
>>>
>>>  So, I'm currently playing the 'what options do I have' game.   I hate
>>> to ship a product only rated down to -25C/-13F, but I know for at least a
>>> large chunk of my customer base they never see below this temperature,
>>> especially when you add a watt of power dissipation in the case with the
>>> device.  Which leads me back to my original question:  What's the lowest
>>> temperature most people would expect to see inside their enclosures.
>>>
>>> --
>>>     *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
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>>>
>>>
>>

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