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Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 25, 2015 6:37 PM, "Steve D" <bigd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I love the first Q&A response in the FAQ Ray...
>
> Q: Why is this change happening?
>
> A: The current Power Supply line is being retired.
>
>
> Given how super helpful that was, I thought I'd help you guys out and fill
> out the rest of the FAQ before you get inundated with more of these silly
> questions.
>
> Q:  Why is it being retired?
> A:  Because we're making a change to a new Power Supply.
>
> Q:  Why is this change happening and why is it being retired?
> A:  The old Power Supply is being replaced with a new Power supply.
>
> -Steve D
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ray,
>>
>> Thanks for listening.
>>
>> So if one thing is guaranteed it's that someone is going to unplug the
>> cables that are attached to the POE.  either a tech friend will be over to
>> "help" them with their router, their kid will unplug it or they will just
>> decide to unplug the cables for XYZ reason.  it's guaranteed to happen.
>>
>> With the old POE there was only one way to screw it up...unplug the cable
>> from the radio outside.  usually they think they are smart and they plug
>> the radio cable directly into their router.  sometimes they just leave it
>> all unplugged.  But when we try to help them put it back together correctly
>> here's how the conversation goes:
>>
>> agent: do you see the 3" flat black cable?
>> client: yes
>> agent: ok good, that goes into your computer or your router WAN port,
>> just like it says on the sticker.
>> client: ok got it plugged in
>> agent: now take the cable coming from the outside, that goes into the
>> port that says "to radio" (we also usually tape the ethernet cable to the
>> ferrite bead with electrical tape so that they have to physically remove
>> the tape to remove the cable)
>> client: ok that's plugged in.
>> agent: great now also make sure that the electrical plug is securely
>> plugged into a wall outlet and that there is a red light on the plug.
>> client: there's a red light and the internet is working again.  thanks!
>>
>> 4 easy steps to success!
>>
>> with the new POE there are multiple ways to screw it up.  when they
>> unplug everything the labels to put it back are "Gigabit ethernet" and
>> "gigabit ethernet+power".  so which one is supposed to go where?  well
>> power seems "better", maybe that goes into my computer...nope wrong.  but
>> even better labeling won't help a whole lot because once they unplug the
>> cables they usually toss them or do god knows what with them.  so here's
>> the support call:
>>
>> agent: do you see the 3" flat black cable?
>> client: i have no idea what you're talking about.  i have this weird
>> brick that my 3 month old son is playing with.
>> agent: ok you have the other style adapter.  do you see the cable coming
>> from the outside radio?  plug that into "gigabit ethernet+power".
>> client: i don't see where that port is.
>> agent: ok, flip the brick over and squint really hard, do you see the
>> faint lettering on the brick.
>> client: maybe, let me grab my glasses.  ok i think i see it...click.
>> agent: great, now do you see the cable that goes to the back of your
>> router.
>> client: um yeah on the back of this link-see thing there's 5 or 6 wires.
>> agent: ok there should be a port labeled internet.
>> client: nope i don't see that.
>> agent: is there one labeled WAN?
>> client: yeah
>> agent: ok the cable plugged into the WAN port of your router that goes
>> into the "Gigabit ethernet" port on the brick.
>> client: oh geeze, let me find my glasses again.
>> agent: it's the only other port on the brick.
>> client: ok got it.
>> agent: great, now make sure the power cable is plugged into the wall
>> outlet.
>> client: yeah it's plugged into the wall.
>> agent: ok now that it's all back together does the internet work.
>> client: nope, can you just send someone?  i'm tired of all this plugging
>> and unplugging.
>> agent: well, lets just check the cables one more time.  "Gigabit
>> ethernet" goes to WAN port on router, "gigabit ethernet+power" goes to the
>> cable going outside to the radio.
>> client: yes that's how i have it.  please just send someone.
>> agent: is the power cord plugged into the wall outlet.
>> client: yes
>> agent: is the other end of the power cable plugged into the brick?
>> client: well, um no, no it isn't.  you never said to do that!
>> agent: ok well plug that into the brick.  does the internet work now?
>> client: yeah i guess, why are all the cables so confusing?  i have
>> wireless service, why do you have so many damn wires?
>>
>> catch my drift?  labeling would help a bit but honestly there's 6 points
>> of failure on the new POE (2 ethernet ports and 2 sides to the power cable,
>> plus the ethernet ports can be plugged in backward so really it's 6 things
>> to check)  the old POE has 3 points of failure. is the ethernet cable from
>> the radio unplugged?  is the wall wart unplugged? is the flat black cable
>> unplugged?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Ray Savich <
>> ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Check out the details at
>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Join the Conversation
>>>
>>> Cambium Networks Community Forum <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:38 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the link josh.  They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price of
>>> $24 is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are gone.  Also
>>> eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term solution.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Come on cambium listen to your long time loyal customers!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0&_nkw=canopy+power+supply&_sacat=0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Cambium,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install procedures
>>> AND our tech support procedures.  The new POE is also very cumbersome and
>>> prone to clients plugging things in backwards etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you either keep selling them or give us access to the manufacturer
>>> so that we can still buy them?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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