Me! I use UBNT PoE's on Cambium radios all the time :P

It makes it much easier to replace customer's radios if we don't have to
deal with getting into their house.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Who would use a Ubnt POE for Cambium radios?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jun 25, 2015 6:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>>   Why doesn’t anyone seem to have the same complaint about the Ubiquiti
>> POEs?
>>
>> Maybe because they come with the radio so you might as well use them?
>> Plus they have cool white LEDs?  Plus now a wallmount bracket (but that has
>> to be ordered separately unless you get an AF5X).
>>
>> One thing you could do is buy a bunch of yellow patch cords and some
>> self-adhesive yellow sticky dots.  Hopefully the cavemen can match up the
>> yellow cord with the yellow dot.  Or use a dab of hotmelt glue so they
>> can’t unplug it.  I know, it still means paying more for something you
>> still don’t like as well as the old one.
>>
>> Maybe if they put in a current indicator LED like the Tycon CI series, we
>> find that really helps with troubleshooting over the phone.
>>
>> I much prefer AC cords to wall warts, but that’s a personal preference.
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:41 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>
>>
>> Lol!!!
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jun 25, 2015 6:37 PM, "Steve D" <bigd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I love the first Q&A response in the FAQ Ray...
>>>
>>>
>>> Q: Why is this change happening?
>>>
>>> A: The current Power Supply line is being retired.
>>>
>>>
>>> Given how super helpful that was, I thought I'd help you guys out and
>>> fill out the rest of the FAQ before you get inundated with more of these
>>> silly questions.
>>>
>>> Q:  Why is it being retired?
>>> A:  Because we're making a change to a new Power Supply.
>>>
>>> Q:  Why is this change happening and why is it being retired?
>>> A:  The old Power Supply is being replaced with a new Power supply.
>>>
>>> -Steve D
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ray,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for listening.
>>>>
>>>> So if one thing is guaranteed it's that someone is going to unplug the
>>>> cables that are attached to the POE.  either a tech friend will be over to
>>>> "help" them with their router, their kid will unplug it or they will just
>>>> decide to unplug the cables for XYZ reason.  it's guaranteed to happen.
>>>>
>>>> With the old POE there was only one way to screw it up...unplug the
>>>> cable from the radio outside.  usually they think they are smart and they
>>>> plug the radio cable directly into their router.  sometimes they just leave
>>>> it all unplugged.  But when we try to help them put it back together
>>>> correctly here's how the conversation goes:
>>>>
>>>> agent: do you see the 3" flat black cable?
>>>> client: yes
>>>> agent: ok good, that goes into your computer or your router WAN port,
>>>> just like it says on the sticker.
>>>> client: ok got it plugged in
>>>> agent: now take the cable coming from the outside, that goes into the
>>>> port that says "to radio" (we also usually tape the ethernet cable to the
>>>> ferrite bead with electrical tape so that they have to physically remove
>>>> the tape to remove the cable)
>>>> client: ok that's plugged in.
>>>> agent: great now also make sure that the electrical plug is securely
>>>> plugged into a wall outlet and that there is a red light on the plug.
>>>> client: there's a red light and the internet is working again.  thanks!
>>>>
>>>> 4 easy steps to success!
>>>>
>>>> with the new POE there are multiple ways to screw it up.  when they
>>>> unplug everything the labels to put it back are "Gigabit ethernet" and
>>>> "gigabit ethernet+power".  so which one is supposed to go where?  well
>>>> power seems "better", maybe that goes into my computer...nope wrong.  but
>>>> even better labeling won't help a whole lot because once they unplug the
>>>> cables they usually toss them or do god knows what with them.  so here's
>>>> the support call:
>>>>
>>>> agent: do you see the 3" flat black cable?
>>>> client: i have no idea what you're talking about.  i have this weird
>>>> brick that my 3 month old son is playing with.
>>>> agent: ok you have the other style adapter.  do you see the cable
>>>> coming from the outside radio?  plug that into "gigabit ethernet+power".
>>>> client: i don't see where that port is.
>>>> agent: ok, flip the brick over and squint really hard, do you see the
>>>> faint lettering on the brick.
>>>> client: maybe, let me grab my glasses.  ok i think i see it...click.
>>>> agent: great, now do you see the cable that goes to the back of your
>>>> router.
>>>> client: um yeah on the back of this link-see thing there's 5 or 6 wires.
>>>> agent: ok there should be a port labeled internet.
>>>> client: nope i don't see that.
>>>> agent: is there one labeled WAN?
>>>> client: yeah
>>>> agent: ok the cable plugged into the WAN port of your router that goes
>>>> into the "Gigabit ethernet" port on the brick.
>>>> client: oh geeze, let me find my glasses again.
>>>> agent: it's the only other port on the brick.
>>>> client: ok got it.
>>>> agent: great, now make sure the power cable is plugged into the wall
>>>> outlet.
>>>> client: yeah it's plugged into the wall.
>>>> agent: ok now that it's all back together does the internet work.
>>>> client: nope, can you just send someone?  i'm tired of all this
>>>> plugging and unplugging.
>>>> agent: well, lets just check the cables one more time.  "Gigabit
>>>> ethernet" goes to WAN port on router, "gigabit ethernet+power" goes to the
>>>> cable going outside to the radio.
>>>> client: yes that's how i have it.  please just send someone.
>>>> agent: is the power cord plugged into the wall outlet.
>>>> client: yes
>>>> agent: is the other end of the power cable plugged into the brick?
>>>> client: well, um no, no it isn't.  you never said to do that!
>>>> agent: ok well plug that into the brick.  does the internet work now?
>>>> client: yeah i guess, why are all the cables so confusing?  i have
>>>> wireless service, why do you have so many damn wires?
>>>>
>>>> catch my drift?  labeling would help a bit but honestly there's 6
>>>> points of failure on the new POE (2 ethernet ports and 2 sides to the power
>>>> cable, plus the ethernet ports can be plugged in backward so really it's 6
>>>> things to check)  the old POE has 3 points of failure. is the ethernet
>>>> cable from the radio unplugged?  is the wall wart unplugged? is the flat
>>>> black cable unplugged?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Ray Savich <
>>>> ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Check out the details at
>>>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732
>>>>>
>>>>> Ray
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Join the Conversation
>>>>>
>>>>> Cambium Networks Community Forum
>>>>> <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>>>>> Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:38 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the link josh.  They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price
>>>>> of $24 is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are gone.  
>>>>> Also
>>>>> eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term solution.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Come on cambium listen to your long time loyal customers!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0&_nkw=canopy+power+supply&_sacat=0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Cambium,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install
>>>>> procedures AND our tech support procedures.  The new POE is also very
>>>>> cumbersome and prone to clients plugging things in backwards etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you either keep selling them or give us access to the manufacturer
>>>>> so that we can still buy them?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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