What pigtails are you using on the roof? Or are you crimping the end wrong?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 25, 2015 9:13 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Me! I use UBNT PoE's on Cambium radios all the time :P
>
> It makes it much easier to replace customer's radios if we don't have to
> deal with getting into their house.
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Who would use a Ubnt POE for Cambium radios?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Jun 25, 2015 6:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   Why doesn’t anyone seem to have the same complaint about the Ubiquiti
>>> POEs?
>>>
>>> Maybe because they come with the radio so you might as well use them?
>>> Plus they have cool white LEDs?  Plus now a wallmount bracket (but that has
>>> to be ordered separately unless you get an AF5X).
>>>
>>> One thing you could do is buy a bunch of yellow patch cords and some
>>> self-adhesive yellow sticky dots.  Hopefully the cavemen can match up the
>>> yellow cord with the yellow dot.  Or use a dab of hotmelt glue so they
>>> can’t unplug it.  I know, it still means paying more for something you
>>> still don’t like as well as the old one.
>>>
>>> Maybe if they put in a current indicator LED like the Tycon CI series,
>>> we find that really helps with troubleshooting over the phone.
>>>
>>> I much prefer AC cords to wall warts, but that’s a personal preference.
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:41 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>>
>>>
>>> Lol!!!
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Jun 25, 2015 6:37 PM, "Steve D" <bigd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I love the first Q&A response in the FAQ Ray...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Q: Why is this change happening?
>>>>
>>>> A: The current Power Supply line is being retired.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Given how super helpful that was, I thought I'd help you guys out and
>>>> fill out the rest of the FAQ before you get inundated with more of these
>>>> silly questions.
>>>>
>>>> Q:  Why is it being retired?
>>>> A:  Because we're making a change to a new Power Supply.
>>>>
>>>> Q:  Why is this change happening and why is it being retired?
>>>> A:  The old Power Supply is being replaced with a new Power supply.
>>>>
>>>> -Steve D
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Ray,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for listening.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if one thing is guaranteed it's that someone is going to unplug the
>>>>> cables that are attached to the POE.  either a tech friend will be over to
>>>>> "help" them with their router, their kid will unplug it or they will just
>>>>> decide to unplug the cables for XYZ reason.  it's guaranteed to happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> With the old POE there was only one way to screw it up...unplug the
>>>>> cable from the radio outside.  usually they think they are smart and they
>>>>> plug the radio cable directly into their router.  sometimes they just 
>>>>> leave
>>>>> it all unplugged.  But when we try to help them put it back together
>>>>> correctly here's how the conversation goes:
>>>>>
>>>>> agent: do you see the 3" flat black cable?
>>>>> client: yes
>>>>> agent: ok good, that goes into your computer or your router WAN port,
>>>>> just like it says on the sticker.
>>>>> client: ok got it plugged in
>>>>> agent: now take the cable coming from the outside, that goes into the
>>>>> port that says "to radio" (we also usually tape the ethernet cable to the
>>>>> ferrite bead with electrical tape so that they have to physically remove
>>>>> the tape to remove the cable)
>>>>> client: ok that's plugged in.
>>>>> agent: great now also make sure that the electrical plug is securely
>>>>> plugged into a wall outlet and that there is a red light on the plug.
>>>>> client: there's a red light and the internet is working again.  thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> 4 easy steps to success!
>>>>>
>>>>> with the new POE there are multiple ways to screw it up.  when they
>>>>> unplug everything the labels to put it back are "Gigabit ethernet" and
>>>>> "gigabit ethernet+power".  so which one is supposed to go where?  well
>>>>> power seems "better", maybe that goes into my computer...nope wrong.  but
>>>>> even better labeling won't help a whole lot because once they unplug the
>>>>> cables they usually toss them or do god knows what with them.  so here's
>>>>> the support call:
>>>>>
>>>>> agent: do you see the 3" flat black cable?
>>>>> client: i have no idea what you're talking about.  i have this weird
>>>>> brick that my 3 month old son is playing with.
>>>>> agent: ok you have the other style adapter.  do you see the cable
>>>>> coming from the outside radio?  plug that into "gigabit ethernet+power".
>>>>> client: i don't see where that port is.
>>>>> agent: ok, flip the brick over and squint really hard, do you see the
>>>>> faint lettering on the brick.
>>>>> client: maybe, let me grab my glasses.  ok i think i see it...click.
>>>>> agent: great, now do you see the cable that goes to the back of your
>>>>> router.
>>>>> client: um yeah on the back of this link-see thing there's 5 or 6
>>>>> wires.
>>>>> agent: ok there should be a port labeled internet.
>>>>> client: nope i don't see that.
>>>>> agent: is there one labeled WAN?
>>>>> client: yeah
>>>>> agent: ok the cable plugged into the WAN port of your router that goes
>>>>> into the "Gigabit ethernet" port on the brick.
>>>>> client: oh geeze, let me find my glasses again.
>>>>> agent: it's the only other port on the brick.
>>>>> client: ok got it.
>>>>> agent: great, now make sure the power cable is plugged into the wall
>>>>> outlet.
>>>>> client: yeah it's plugged into the wall.
>>>>> agent: ok now that it's all back together does the internet work.
>>>>> client: nope, can you just send someone?  i'm tired of all this
>>>>> plugging and unplugging.
>>>>> agent: well, lets just check the cables one more time.  "Gigabit
>>>>> ethernet" goes to WAN port on router, "gigabit ethernet+power" goes to the
>>>>> cable going outside to the radio.
>>>>> client: yes that's how i have it.  please just send someone.
>>>>> agent: is the power cord plugged into the wall outlet.
>>>>> client: yes
>>>>> agent: is the other end of the power cable plugged into the brick?
>>>>> client: well, um no, no it isn't.  you never said to do that!
>>>>> agent: ok well plug that into the brick.  does the internet work now?
>>>>> client: yeah i guess, why are all the cables so confusing?  i have
>>>>> wireless service, why do you have so many damn wires?
>>>>>
>>>>> catch my drift?  labeling would help a bit but honestly there's 6
>>>>> points of failure on the new POE (2 ethernet ports and 2 sides to the 
>>>>> power
>>>>> cable, plus the ethernet ports can be plugged in backward so really it's 6
>>>>> things to check)  the old POE has 3 points of failure. is the ethernet
>>>>> cable from the radio unplugged?  is the wall wart unplugged? is the flat
>>>>> black cable unplugged?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Ray Savich <
>>>>> ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Check out the details at
>>>>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ray
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Join the Conversation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cambium Networks Community Forum
>>>>>> <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:38 AM
>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the link josh.  They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price
>>>>>> of $24 is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are gone.  
>>>>>> Also
>>>>>> eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Come on cambium listen to your long time loyal customers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0&_nkw=canopy+power+supply&_sacat=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Cambium,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install
>>>>>> procedures AND our tech support procedures.  The new POE is also very
>>>>>> cumbersome and prone to clients plugging things in backwards etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you either keep selling them or give us access to the
>>>>>> manufacturer so that we can still buy them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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