Crimping the end wrong.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> What pigtails are you using on the roof? Or are you crimping the end wrong?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jun 25, 2015 9:13 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Me! I use UBNT PoE's on Cambium radios all the time :P
>>
>> It makes it much easier to replace customer's radios if we don't have to
>> deal with getting into their house.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Who would use a Ubnt POE for Cambium radios?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Jun 25, 2015 6:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Why doesn’t anyone seem to have the same complaint about the
>>>> Ubiquiti POEs?
>>>>
>>>> Maybe because they come with the radio so you might as well use them?
>>>> Plus they have cool white LEDs?  Plus now a wallmount bracket (but that has
>>>> to be ordered separately unless you get an AF5X).
>>>>
>>>> One thing you could do is buy a bunch of yellow patch cords and some
>>>> self-adhesive yellow sticky dots.  Hopefully the cavemen can match up the
>>>> yellow cord with the yellow dot.  Or use a dab of hotmelt glue so they
>>>> can’t unplug it.  I know, it still means paying more for something you
>>>> still don’t like as well as the old one.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe if they put in a current indicator LED like the Tycon CI series,
>>>> we find that really helps with troubleshooting over the phone.
>>>>
>>>> I much prefer AC cords to wall warts, but that’s a personal preference.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 5:41 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lol!!!
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> On Jun 25, 2015 6:37 PM, "Steve D" <bigd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I love the first Q&A response in the FAQ Ray...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Q: Why is this change happening?
>>>>>
>>>>> A: The current Power Supply line is being retired.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Given how super helpful that was, I thought I'd help you guys out and
>>>>> fill out the rest of the FAQ before you get inundated with more of these
>>>>> silly questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Q:  Why is it being retired?
>>>>> A:  Because we're making a change to a new Power Supply.
>>>>>
>>>>> Q:  Why is this change happening and why is it being retired?
>>>>> A:  The old Power Supply is being replaced with a new Power supply.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Steve D
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ray,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for listening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if one thing is guaranteed it's that someone is going to unplug
>>>>>> the cables that are attached to the POE.  either a tech friend will be 
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> to "help" them with their router, their kid will unplug it or they will
>>>>>> just decide to unplug the cables for XYZ reason.  it's guaranteed to 
>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With the old POE there was only one way to screw it up...unplug the
>>>>>> cable from the radio outside.  usually they think they are smart and they
>>>>>> plug the radio cable directly into their router.  sometimes they just 
>>>>>> leave
>>>>>> it all unplugged.  But when we try to help them put it back together
>>>>>> correctly here's how the conversation goes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> agent: do you see the 3" flat black cable?
>>>>>> client: yes
>>>>>> agent: ok good, that goes into your computer or your router WAN port,
>>>>>> just like it says on the sticker.
>>>>>> client: ok got it plugged in
>>>>>> agent: now take the cable coming from the outside, that goes into the
>>>>>> port that says "to radio" (we also usually tape the ethernet cable to the
>>>>>> ferrite bead with electrical tape so that they have to physically remove
>>>>>> the tape to remove the cable)
>>>>>> client: ok that's plugged in.
>>>>>> agent: great now also make sure that the electrical plug is securely
>>>>>> plugged into a wall outlet and that there is a red light on the plug.
>>>>>> client: there's a red light and the internet is working again.
>>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4 easy steps to success!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with the new POE there are multiple ways to screw it up.  when they
>>>>>> unplug everything the labels to put it back are "Gigabit ethernet" and
>>>>>> "gigabit ethernet+power".  so which one is supposed to go where?  well
>>>>>> power seems "better", maybe that goes into my computer...nope wrong.  but
>>>>>> even better labeling won't help a whole lot because once they unplug the
>>>>>> cables they usually toss them or do god knows what with them.  so here's
>>>>>> the support call:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> agent: do you see the 3" flat black cable?
>>>>>> client: i have no idea what you're talking about.  i have this weird
>>>>>> brick that my 3 month old son is playing with.
>>>>>> agent: ok you have the other style adapter.  do you see the cable
>>>>>> coming from the outside radio?  plug that into "gigabit ethernet+power".
>>>>>> client: i don't see where that port is.
>>>>>> agent: ok, flip the brick over and squint really hard, do you see the
>>>>>> faint lettering on the brick.
>>>>>> client: maybe, let me grab my glasses.  ok i think i see it...click.
>>>>>> agent: great, now do you see the cable that goes to the back of your
>>>>>> router.
>>>>>> client: um yeah on the back of this link-see thing there's 5 or 6
>>>>>> wires.
>>>>>> agent: ok there should be a port labeled internet.
>>>>>> client: nope i don't see that.
>>>>>> agent: is there one labeled WAN?
>>>>>> client: yeah
>>>>>> agent: ok the cable plugged into the WAN port of your router that
>>>>>> goes into the "Gigabit ethernet" port on the brick.
>>>>>> client: oh geeze, let me find my glasses again.
>>>>>> agent: it's the only other port on the brick.
>>>>>> client: ok got it.
>>>>>> agent: great, now make sure the power cable is plugged into the wall
>>>>>> outlet.
>>>>>> client: yeah it's plugged into the wall.
>>>>>> agent: ok now that it's all back together does the internet work.
>>>>>> client: nope, can you just send someone?  i'm tired of all this
>>>>>> plugging and unplugging.
>>>>>> agent: well, lets just check the cables one more time.  "Gigabit
>>>>>> ethernet" goes to WAN port on router, "gigabit ethernet+power" goes to 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> cable going outside to the radio.
>>>>>> client: yes that's how i have it.  please just send someone.
>>>>>> agent: is the power cord plugged into the wall outlet.
>>>>>> client: yes
>>>>>> agent: is the other end of the power cable plugged into the brick?
>>>>>> client: well, um no, no it isn't.  you never said to do that!
>>>>>> agent: ok well plug that into the brick.  does the internet work now?
>>>>>> client: yeah i guess, why are all the cables so confusing?  i have
>>>>>> wireless service, why do you have so many damn wires?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> catch my drift?  labeling would help a bit but honestly there's 6
>>>>>> points of failure on the new POE (2 ethernet ports and 2 sides to the 
>>>>>> power
>>>>>> cable, plus the ethernet ports can be plugged in backward so really it's 
>>>>>> 6
>>>>>> things to check)  the old POE has 3 points of failure. is the ethernet
>>>>>> cable from the radio unplugged?  is the wall wart unplugged? is the flat
>>>>>> black cable unplugged?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Ray Savich <
>>>>>> ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Check out the details at
>>>>>>> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ray
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Join the Conversation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cambium Networks Community Forum
>>>>>>> <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org]
>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:38 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Cc:* memb...@wispa.org
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the link josh.  They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price
>>>>>>> of $24 is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are gone.  
>>>>>>> Also
>>>>>>> eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term solution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Come on cambium listen to your long time loyal customers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0&_nkw=canopy+power+supply&_sacat=0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Cambium,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install
>>>>>>> procedures AND our tech support procedures.  The new POE is also very
>>>>>>> cumbersome and prone to clients plugging things in backwards etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you either keep selling them or give us access to the
>>>>>>> manufacturer so that we can still buy them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Sean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Members mailing list
>>>>>>> memb...@wispa.org
>>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>

Reply via email to