Doesn't that almost entirely negate the cost advantages of GPON, namely,
that there's a lot lower strand count and your fiber outside plant design
can use passive prism splits for the transport to the actively AC powered
network node?

*You realize the transport core to the gpon OLT chassis is still active
fiber in many designs, right?*

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> You realize the transport core to the gpon OLT chassis is still active
> fiber in many designs, right? I also am unsure if you are aware of the
> upgrade process to NG-PON2 - you can run it on the same fiber strand as
> your existing PON split. Add the new card into the chassis and move the
> split over to the new SFP. Upgrade the customers at your leisure.
> On Feb 12, 2016 9:13 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Key part there is, *is going to be*...  is it available or shipping
>> now?  If somebody wants to start a build now, the choice is between GPON or
>> active.
>>
>> Having an active fiber path, even with just one strand (for BiDi optics)
>> gives you a nearly infinite lifespan of the installed light path and cable
>> plant, if things are maintained correctly. With a dedicated light path from
>> each powered network node to the customer you could upgrade to active-E 10,
>> then 40, then 100Gbps someday.  Yes we will see customers with 10GbE optics
>> in the next ten years. And maybe in 20 or 30 years from now it'll be cheap
>> and easy to connect each customer with an SFP-sized coherent QPSK 100GbE
>> optic at each end.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 10-40Gbps on NG-PON2 is going to be the real deal, and betting against
>>> it vs active ethernet at scale for residential service is just...
>>> dumb, to be honest (IMO).
>>>
>>> The size of your backbone ends up being monstrous with active, as well
>>> as having to keep the cabinets powered, UPS+batteries, enclosurers
>>> maintained, etc. PON is simply so much cheaper are scale, and in
>>> residential every dollar counts.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I did forget to mention that I'm firmly on the side of activeE being
>>> the
>>> > best choice, for one big reason...  You can use all kinds of SFP-based
>>> > equipment (24/48-port 1U switches) or chassis based switches and
>>> routers
>>> > with 24/48-port blades from a huge variety of manufacturers.
>>> >
>>> > There's a lot of 48-port SFP stuff out there on the grey/refurb/used
>>> market
>>> > that came out of datacenters, and no longer meets the bandwidth needs
>>> for
>>> > people who are doing 10GbE (or 2x10GbE) to each bare metal hypervisor.
>>> But
>>> > that same equipment is perfect for activeE.
>>> >
>>> > Same idea as a Cisco 3750G-48 is no longer enough bandwidth for
>>> 1000BaseT to
>>> > the server in colo environments, but is perfect for MDU use.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > GPON/EPON/whateverPON is all a mess of manufacturer proprietary CPEs
>>> and
>>> > non-interoperable stuff. Whereas with activeE and a real ethernet port
>>> for
>>> > each customer you can use $30 media converters as your demarc.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Andreas Wiatowski
>>> > <andr...@silowireless.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >>
>>> >> Looking to do my first ftth for about 110 homes.
>>> >> If I do active,  what switch platform would you use for sfp in
>>> cabinet and
>>> >> in home router/cabinet.
>>> >>
>>> >> If GPon,  what vendor would you choose that is cost effective/reliable
>>> >>
>>> >> I understand the full limitations of GPon.. But I feel it is an
>>> attractive
>>> >> proposition compared to active... And the few systems I have seen
>>> have a
>>> >> road map to faster olt access.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >>
>>> >> ______________________________
>>> >>
>>> >> Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
>>> >>
>>> >> Silo Wireless Inc.
>>> >>
>>> >> Email  andr...@silowireless.com
>>> >>
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>>> >>
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>>> >>
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>>> >> +1.866.727.4138
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>
>>

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