So,  I understand the benefits of GPon ... What brand would you consider? ... I 
have been looking at Alphion. Huawei seems like a good option... But much more 
expensive.



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-------- Original message --------
From: Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
Date: 2016-02-12 10:21 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Active or GPon?


You realize the transport core to the gpon OLT chassis is still active fiber in 
many designs, right? I also am unsure if you are aware of the  upgrade process 
to NG-PON2 - you can run it on the same fiber strand as your existing PON 
split. Add the new card into the chassis and move the split over to the new 
SFP. Upgrade the customers at your leisure.

On Feb 12, 2016 9:13 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" 
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Key part there is, is going to be...  is it available or shipping now?  If 
somebody wants to start a build now, the choice is between GPON or active.

Having an active fiber path, even with just one strand (for BiDi optics) gives 
you a nearly infinite lifespan of the installed light path and cable plant, if 
things are maintained correctly. With a dedicated light path from each powered 
network node to the customer you could upgrade to active-E 10, then 40, then 
100Gbps someday.  Yes we will see customers with 10GbE optics in the next ten 
years. And maybe in 20 or 30 years from now it'll be cheap and easy to connect 
each customer with an SFP-sized coherent QPSK 100GbE optic at each end.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
10-40Gbps on NG-PON2 is going to be the real deal, and betting against
it vs active ethernet at scale for residential service is just...
dumb, to be honest (IMO).

The size of your backbone ends up being monstrous with active, as well
as having to keep the cabinets powered, UPS+batteries, enclosurers
maintained, etc. PON is simply so much cheaper are scale, and in
residential every dollar counts.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke 
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> I did forget to mention that I'm firmly on the side of activeE being the
> best choice, for one big reason...  You can use all kinds of SFP-based
> equipment (24/48-port 1U switches) or chassis based switches and routers
> with 24/48-port blades from a huge variety of manufacturers.
>
> There's a lot of 48-port SFP stuff out there on the grey/refurb/used market
> that came out of datacenters, and no longer meets the bandwidth needs for
> people who are doing 10GbE (or 2x10GbE) to each bare metal hypervisor. But
> that same equipment is perfect for activeE.
>
> Same idea as a Cisco 3750G-48 is no longer enough bandwidth for 1000BaseT to
> the server in colo environments, but is perfect for MDU use.
>
>
> GPON/EPON/whateverPON is all a mess of manufacturer proprietary CPEs and
> non-interoperable stuff. Whereas with activeE and a real ethernet port for
> each customer you can use $30 media converters as your demarc.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Andreas Wiatowski
> <andr...@silowireless.com<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Looking to do my first ftth for about 110 homes.
>> If I do active,  what switch platform would you use for sfp in cabinet and
>> in home router/cabinet.
>>
>> If GPon,  what vendor would you choose that is cost effective/reliable
>>
>> I understand the full limitations of GPon.. But I feel it is an attractive
>> proposition compared to active... And the few systems I have seen have a
>> road map to faster olt access.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> ______________________________
>>
>> Andreas Wiatowski | CEO
>>
>> Silo Wireless Inc.
>>
>> Email  andr...@silowireless.com<mailto:andr...@silowireless.com>
>>
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>>
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>>
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