You’d be surprised what people really care about.
Heck, I have customers who complain that our VoIP ATAs don’t work with their
pulse dial phones. My old phone company didn’t require me to buy a newfangled
touch tone phone, I don’t like change, why are you making me change?
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 9:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations
Yeah, I think AWS is the last thing that people really care about *not* on IPv6.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 9:11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations
OH REALLY?!?
WOW! *whistles"
SO NOW I KNOW!!! :O
.... *grin*
I think one of the last remaining large holdouts is AWS as a whole. (There are
parts ipv6 enabled, but it's still a mess.)
Other than that, as Service Providers we're probably going to end up having at
least a rudimentary CGNAT deployment for a decade if not more, especially for
those of us with large/old industrial/banking/healthcare customers...
... For stuff that should have been retired 20 years ago but is CRITICAL to
their business, and won't run ipv6.
(For a perfect example of old tech still in use, Google "Compaq laptop McLaren"
:P )
On May 3, 2016 8:45 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
Traffic going IPv6 will bypass NAT end-to-end.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:41:28 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations
To be technical, it's not going to remove NAT on your network for the
foreseeable future unless when you add IPV6 that you also give everybody a
public IPV4 as well :P
Maybe a decade from now we'll be able to ditch NAT :(
Yes, there are several v6/v4 and v4/v6 translation mechanisms, but those are
really just different types of Network Address Translation, regardless of if
they are officially called that or not.
(Not that you don't know this Mike, I just don't want the nice people
following along with the list to get the wrong information about the ipv6
transition.)
On May 3, 2016 8:35 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
Having NAT problems? Having problems tracking down DMCA or subpoena
targets? It's impacting your functionality.
Moving to IPv6 will also increase performance due to the removal of NAT.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:18:33 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations
Seth,
I think it is pick your battles when you can. Some of use run at 100%
capacity in execution, and we have to carve out additional time to do whatever
the "other" things are. And there are a LOT of those "other" things for
growing companies.
We all know it's important. But, if it is so easy, then when it's time to
hit it head on as it will being impacting our functionality, we can "easily"
take that time, at that time :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 12:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DSL Router Recommendations
On 5/2/16 11:18 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Everyone *SHOULD* be caring about IPv6.
>
Why people running ISPs refuse to or are resistant to learn about things
directly related to the business they claim to be in baffles me.
~Seth
