I have tried a few, one short link through trees is still in service, but if
the trees are near the customer it is unimpressive. You can probably replace
any 2.4 FSK customers, but the NLOS ones are going to be 2X or 4X or MIMO-A, so
not taking advantage of the 450 capabilities and eating up airtime on an
expensive platform with probably a 10 MHz channel.
LOS however it rocks.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
Has anyone tried 450 3.65 for near Los situations like this discussion?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jun 7, 2016 2:46 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
Take into account the 24-25dBm Tx power on a 2.4 FSK AP vs 22dBm on a 2.4 450
AP. And you'll probably get a better pattern on a sector vs omni. A V-pol omni
doesn't typically have a horrible pattern though. Except for vertical
beamwidth. Then you play with electronic downtilt models, etc. So it's probably
moot as far as Rx power levels go between the two.
We get OK penetration on the 2.4 450 sector we have up. Not so much the noise
at the tower as it is at the SMs. We're going to get rid of it eventually along
with all of the other 2.4 shit. It's a dead band just like 900 to us now.
On 6/7/2016 1:33 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Omni to a sector, of course. You're probably getting more than 2 db unless
it was a bonkers big omni and super small sector.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I have moved from pmp100 to 450 on 2.4ghz. Didn't do a cluster though.
Went from a 2.4FSK on a 12db Omni to a two 450 sectors from KP 120 beam width
(think 14db) . Was able to hook up every single customer I has on the FSK to
the 450 and some were near-LOS. The 450 in 2.4ghz actually has impressively
decent nLOS. I think its a lot better than the 3.65 for NLOS. ( I have used all
the 450 frequency bands except 900)
If you thinking about going 450 in 2.4 and you already have FSK up on 2.4
and nothing abmormal with your noise floor then do it. You'll love it. The 450
is actually better because you can run 10-mhz channels to get around some of
the noise in 2.4 vs the FSK which was stuck at 20mhz
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote:
So has anyone moved a PMP100 2.4 cluster too PMP450 2.4 and how did
that go? With PMP100 in 2.4 we do pretty good on near LOS
connections. Only deployed PMP450 in 3.6 and 5ghz so far though.
> We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed. Some Ubiquiti we tried and
> some we inherited as well. Have some ePMP we have tested but so far
> have not deployed more then couple test links.
>
> For those who have tried both ePMP and PMP450 what are the differences
> you have seen in performance? Interference tolerance among others?
>
> For those that have gone with PMP450 over ePMP what was the reasoning?
